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(TOR/OTT) - future considerations for Murray + 2023 3rd rd pick + 2024 7th round pick

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Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:15 p.m.
#26
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Wouldn't have made sense for Ottawa. Buying him out would have ended up being cheaper.


Buying out would cost 10M. Retaining half would cost 7.5M.
Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:15 p.m.
#27
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the real winner here is connor brown bc everyone thought he was going back to the leafs, but instead he'll be playing in the 2nd round with debrincat and stutzle this year smile
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:15 p.m.
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This is definitely a win for OTT, if Murray performs well then it's a win-win. Dubas is betting it all on Murray though, if this fails, he's probably gone. The good part is that Murray's contract expires at the same time as Matthews and Nylander's. They should have paid up to get some more retained by a 3rd team but who knows, maybe the ask for that was ridiculous.
Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:15 p.m.
#29
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Buying out would cost 10M. Retaining half would cost 7.5M.


Meant the active years.
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:16 p.m.
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Wow... Dubas messed up badly here... I thought it would be half retained...


Would have had to have a 3rd team, but guess they couldn't find someone to retain at a reasonable price.
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:16 p.m.
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Well, this is it. I've been a Leafs fan for about 10, maybe 11 years now, but I can't take this stupid trade. The team had so much promise with their core, but acquiring Matt Murray seals the deal. The trade could've been better! I really think it could've been! But Kyle Dumbas doesn't know how to work the phones properly and he got ****ed hard by Ottawa. This stinks. I'm packing my **** and going to Arizona where they know how to run a team. Nice knowing you.


You had me believing until Arizona lol. Anyway, we shall see what happens with this. I was hoping for 50% retention. Right now this is Dubas loss. But I guess we’ll see how it plays out.
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:17 p.m.
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Id bet Murray bounces back before Mrazek but still not great odds. OTT wins this one.
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:19 p.m.
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I’m not biased but Murray is still a top goalie in the league smile sure he’s had lots of injury struggles and we know he isn’t the same as he was in 2016-2017. But I hope this can be a fresh start for him to bounce back strong!
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:19 p.m.
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Dorian has been making some great moves as of late
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:20 p.m.
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L.
Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:20 p.m.
#36
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Big W for Ottawa
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:20 p.m.
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People say it's a cap dump, but it's not. The Leafs want to play him. So it's a W for the Leafs, though 50% retention would have made it clearer.
Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:21 p.m.
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Wierre Worion
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:22 p.m.
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:23 p.m.
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So glad that I stopped cheering for the Leafs after they lost to Tampa
Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:23 p.m.
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Karma: the universe's restorative justice for past acts, whether good or bad. Example: half of the Toronto fanbase sneers at the proposed acquisition of John Gibson because "he's been bad for three seasons," only to end up with Matt Murray (who's save percentage averaged out over the last three years is under 0.900) instead.

I hope BOTH goalies rebound this season.
Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:24 p.m.
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SENS'D + L + hospitalized slice of Swiss cheese + ratio
Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:26 p.m.
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Hahahaha I love to see it. Can't seem to find the 2md rounder and Connor brown attached to the trsde though weird 😂
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:26 p.m.
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I hate it.

Prove me wrong, Dubas.
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:27 p.m.
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Kyle Dubas is not going to make it to this time next year. What a joke.
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:29 p.m.
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So glad that I stopped cheering for the Leafs after they lost to Tampa


Wow if that's the kind of loss that makes you stop cheering for a team maybe hockey's not for you eh bud?
Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:29 p.m.
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This is exactly why I approved of the Murray contract in the first place: If the contract didn't work out by the time the Sens were ready to compete for a playoff spot, Murray could be dumped at a relatively minimal loss and the team was nowhere close to the cap ceiling.

From a Leafs perspective, I don't approve. Murray is always hurt and wildly inconsistent when healthy. They're a top tier team. Can they really afford such a gamble? They'll never win the Cup with average-slightly above average goaltending. They're not COL.
Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:31 p.m.
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I would have rather kept mrazek. Now I get to hope Murray rebounds. Sigh....
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:32 p.m.
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So the Leafs HAVE to make deal with Chicago with to get out of Mrazek's 3.8m X 2, by trading out of the first round. OK I get it. Then they really get nothing by spending almost a 1m X 2 MORE in cap by acquiring Murray.
Couldn't the Leafs have found a goalie for much cheaper and better than Murray? Whoa, this appears to so bad for the Leafs.
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:33 p.m.
#50
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Sens win overall, but I still don't no why it makes sense for either team.
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