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Ottawa Senators signed Joshua Norris (8 Years / $7,950,000 AAV)

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Jul. 14 at 4:32 p.m.
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Joshua Norris has signed a new contract with the Ottawa Senators.
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SIGNED BY: Pierre Dorion
LENGTH: 8 YEARS
EXPIRY STATUS: UFA
SIGNING TEAM: Logo of the Ottawa SenatorsOttawa Senators
VALUE: $63,600,000
C.H.% Tooltip: 9.64
SIGNING DATE: Jul. 14, 2022
SOURCE: CapFriendly

Joshua Norris signed a 8 year, $63,600,000 contract with the Ottawa Senators on Jul. 14, 2022. The contract has a cap hit of $7,950,000.

SEASONCLAUSECAP HITTooltipAAV TooltipP. BONUSESTooltipS. BONUSESTooltipBASE SALARYTooltipTOTAL SALARYTooltipMINORS SALTooltip
2022-23$7,950,000$7,950,000$0$0$5,000,000$5,000,000$5,000,000
2023-24$7,950,000$7,950,000$0$0$6,500,000$6,500,000$6,500,000
2024-25$7,950,000$7,950,000$0$0$9,500,000$9,500,000$9,500,000
2025-26$7,950,000$7,950,000$0$0$9,500,000$9,500,000$9,500,000
2026-27M-NTC$7,950,000$7,950,000$0$0$9,500,000$9,500,000$9,500,000
2027-28M-NTC$7,950,000$7,950,000$0$0$8,750,000$8,750,000$8,750,000
2028-29M-NTC$7,950,000$7,950,000$0$0$7,850,000$7,850,000$7,850,000
2029-30M-NTC$7,950,000$7,950,000$0$0$7,000,000$7,000,000$7,000,000
TOTAL$63,600,000$63,600,000$0$0$63,600,000$63,600,000$63,600,000
CLAUSE DETAILS: Player submits an 10 team no trade list.
CLAUSE SOURCE: CapFriendly
Jul. 14 at 4:34 p.m.
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Contract comparables: Suzuki, Thomas, Hughes

Let’s see how he pans out, with an up and coming Sens team, I think this will end up pretty well.
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Jul. 14 at 4:34 p.m.
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Jul. 14 at 4:34 p.m.
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8M for a guy who is never going to win a Norris
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Jul. 14 at 4:34 p.m.
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On par with the up and coming #1 Cs. Fair deal
Jul. 14 at 4:35 p.m.
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I think it's a bit too rich for what he's worth but at the end of the day I think this works out well. Good signing, hopefully the sens will be good this season
Jul. 14 at 4:35 p.m.
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Way too much tbh.
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Jul. 14 at 4:35 p.m.
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The Senators are pegging his developed to Suzuki's.

Personally, I'm less certain about Norris than Suzuki/Thomas/Hughes are in terms of be viable for this cap hit. But we'll see.
Jul. 14 at 4:36 p.m.
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if you're voting no, watch some of his games this season, he's a 1C and he's getting paid like it
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Jul. 14 at 4:36 p.m.
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Contract comparables: Suzuki, Thomas, Hughes


I'm not sure I'd take Norris at this price before any of those 3 guys... Not necessarily a bad contract thought, fair contract
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Jul. 14 at 4:37 p.m.
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Man I like Josh Norris a lot but that is an overpay that he needs to grow into. I always say if you're going to overpay, these are the players to do it for

But guys: he shot nearly 21%. His results haven't exactly been sustainable so far. He's due for some negative regression so maybe temper expectations a little or you're not going to like the contract

Regardless, OTT now has their core locked up long term so good for them. Mission accomplished as far as I'm concerned. Still a no from me though
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Jul. 14 at 4:44 p.m.
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I like this contract. I think Norris is one of the most underrated centers in the league right now, and I personally think he is better than comparable like Thomas, Cirelli, Suzuki and Hicscher due to how elite and balanced his two way game is already...

Now that he is surrounded by even better offensive support, I can only see him getting better and making every penny of this deal worth it.
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Jul. 14 at 4:45 p.m.
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It's not without risk, but I have a hard time imaging it ever being a terrible deal. On the other hand if he continues to develop into the scoring threat he was this year it could be a MONSTER of a deal.

Josh Norris has really fine tuned his shot the last few years, to the point that he is probably one of the best pure shooting talents in the league. The biggest concern with this deal is that Josh Norris is by no means a driver of offense, and his defensive game took a notable step back from his rookie season where he was very solid. If he can continue developing that scoring touch and fine tune his defensive game I think this contract will be great.

I think Josh Norris has such a great shot that he could be a threat to score 40+ goals any given season. I'm definitely not saying he's going to be a consistent 40 goal guy, just that he has the shot to be in that zone. I think he should be able to sleep his way to 30+ a season through his prime.

I'm calling it a W.
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Jul. 14 at 4:46 p.m.
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8M for a guy who is never going to win a Norris


Did I click on the Sergachev post by mistake?
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Jul. 14 at 4:47 p.m.
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That's quite good value for a potential 70-80pts center.
Sens top 6 is interestingly scary now.
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Jul. 14 at 4:47 p.m.
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I think it is a bit much for just one season to earn it but he can certainly and I expect he will grow into it. May not be one that is a steal of a deal but probably a fair deal. If it was 7.25 it could have become a great deal.
Jul. 14 at 4:49 p.m.
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Might seem like an overpay now but I think it’ll turn out alright
Jul. 14 at 4:49 p.m.
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how the **** do these guys still have 11M in cap space
Jul. 14 at 4:50 p.m.
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IMO a great long term for the Sens. Norris is better than his production. On a better team...which the Sens will be, his numbers will be better. If Stutzie progresses in his centre role, Sens are going to really solid at that position.
Jul. 14 at 4:52 p.m.
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how the **** do these guys still have 11M in cap space


Well it's not quite that as they will want to pay bonus money in this coming year. Gotta save cap for Stutzie and others next season.

But to answer your question.....getting rid of Murray helped their cap and ruined the Leafs cap (even more)
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Jul. 14 at 4:54 p.m.
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Looking back, the Sens still won that Karlsson trade that brought Norris, by a long shot.
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Jul. 14 at 4:55 p.m.
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how the **** do these guys still have 11M in cap space


That's the Pierre Dorion difference
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Jul. 14 at 4:55 p.m.
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Frankly, I respect OTT rolling the dice on lengthy extensions for the kids. Buy-out rules give them lee-way to cut the cord for cheap if it doesn't work out (a la Colin White).

Can't wait for Stutzle to get his 8 x 8 or something.
Jul. 14 at 5:03 p.m.
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Frankly, I respect OTT rolling the dice on lengthy extensions for the kids. Buy-out rules give them lee-way to cut the cord for cheap if it doesn't work out (a la Colin White).

Can't wait for Stutzle to get his 8 x 8 or something.


Getting Stützle done this summer is an absolute must. He's gonna be another year stronger and better, and he's gonna go from Formenton and Brown as most common linemates to DeBrincat and Giroux.
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Jul. 14 at 5:16 p.m.
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Well it's not quite that as they will want to pay bonus money in this coming year. Gotta save cap for Stutzie and others next season.

But to answer your question.....getting rid of Murray helped their cap and ruined the Leafs cap (even more)


Caps increasing next year so who cares. Teams dont worry about cap space till the next year. Look at Tampa signed 3 guys to huge extensions that can put them over the cap

Its a sign now worry later problem

Besides Murray is easier to get rid of compared to if we signed Campbell or Kuemper and they became Grubauer
 
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