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2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #8 - Gone Fishing

Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:28 p.m.
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If Pittsburgh trades for Petry we officially got 2 old folks homes in our midst.
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:28 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
I'm not expecting a kings ransom anymore, Burns & McDonagh set the market


I mean McDonagh's return wasnt great but if Myers rebounds it softens the blow
Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:28 p.m.
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:29 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg




Wait they were actually able to move Mike Matheson

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Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:29 p.m.
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:30 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Wait they were actually able to move Mike Matheson



Matheson's advanced analytics are actually pretty good. I'm optimistic with this trade
Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:30 p.m.
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:30 p.m.
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Pittsburgh basically went out and was like k

We go from

Dumo-Letang
Pety-Marino
Matheson-Rud

to

Dumo-Letang
Petey-Petry
Smith-Rutta
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:32 p.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Matheson's advanced analytics are actually pretty good. I'm optimistic with this trade


The problem is whenever someone leaves Sullivan's system there is often a noticeable regression

Now it doesnt always happen but I have noticed when guys like this leave they often dont do as well

Anyways really thought it would have been Petey who was gonna be moved
Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:32 p.m.
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:33 p.m.
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No first round pick for elite top pairing d man Jeff Petry??????????
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:34 p.m.
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Jamie Benn is BACK
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So who else is Montreal going to move, to create the cap space to sign Klingberg?
Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:34 p.m.
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This was certainly a choice

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Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:37 p.m.
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I could have sworn a Canadiens fan telling me that Petry will get traded for a first
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:39 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil
I could have sworn a Canadiens fan telling me that Petry will get traded for a first


They just traded him for the 2022-23 season's Norris Trophy winner. Way better than any draft pick. tears of joy
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:40 p.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Steal for Pittsburgh, id much rather have Petry than Matheson, Petry may be more expensive but he’s better than Matheson and I don’t like the term on Matheson


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Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:41 p.m.
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There's a slight irony, I think I had a discussion in these forums with someone (I actually think it was @BeterChiarelli ) like couple of months ago that Matheson for Petry trade makes a great deal of sense.
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:42 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Pittsburgh basically went out and was like k

We go from

Dumo-Letang
Pety-Marino
Matheson-Rud

to

Dumo-Letang
Petey-Petry
Smith-Rutta


I like this much better for Pitt
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Alfie11
This is true, but the overarching offense/defense metrics for defensemen use xGF/xGA weighted significantly more heavily than actual GF/GA in Dom’s model. I’m not sure if he also incorporates PDO into his equation though, so it’s possible that even though xGF/xGA is weighted 4x heavier than actual GF/GA, New Jersey’s atrocious goaltending could negatively influence that defense stat by allowing far more actual GA. It is normalized relative to team (although Severson I believe is only New Jersey’s 2nd best defensive defenseman, Siegenthaler was unreal this year) but also relative to average, which probably hurts him. So maybe there’s room for improvement on a better team with a better system. I also think that maybe this stat could be improved by factoring in GSAX to account for goaltender quality, but I don’t know enough about the intricacies of advanced stats to know for sure. I would love to dig into this kinda thing, but I feel like the learning curve to get to the point where I’m actually finding ways to improve the stats that get output would be far too high when I’m not getting paid to do it lol


Yea, I probably could do the data conversions and stuff it's just how much time can you waste if there is nothing coming back hehe
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:45 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
I like this much better for Pitt


I would have preferred not signing Rutta and going

Dumo-Letang
Petey-Petry
POJ-Marino
Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:47 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
I would have preferred not signing Rutta and going

Dumo-Letang
Petey-Petry
POJ-Marino


Dumo-Letang
Pettey-Petry
Smith-Rutta
Friedman

POJ gone
Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil
The goaltending might have brought those analytics down because from what I saw, Severson looked solid defensively.


Kind of like buffalo, they had good defense but because there goalies where below .900 all year the numbers where ****ty.
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:55 p.m.
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6.1mil offer sheet coming in
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:56 p.m.
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PITLICK IS BACK WOOOO
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:56 p.m.
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6.1mil offer sheet coming in


Watch it be Necas offersheet
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