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2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #8 - Gone Fishing

Jul. 16, 2022 at 6:17 p.m.
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So, to finish out the offseason, I think Hughes goes with:
PLD to Montreal for something that includes Anderson, Guhle, Dach
Hughes signs John Klingberg to something like 7x7.
Byron and Armia get traded.
Jul. 16, 2022 at 6:18 p.m.
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
Judd Brackets 1st round picks:

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2015 23rd Brock Boeser
2016 5th Olli Juolevi (breakfast ball)
2017 5th Elias Pettersson
2018 7th Quinn Hughes
2019 10th Vasili Podkolzin
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2020 9th Marco Rossi
2021 20th Jesper Wallstedt
26th Carson Lambos
2022 19th Liam Ohgren
24th Danika Yurov

The man knows how to identify talent


I feel like Juolevi was a Benning type move.
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 6:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Juiceman
Not great in the first round but definitely the best team and drafting late round gems


Our best picks outside of the top 2 rounds since 2010

2010 Frederik Andersen - 7th Round
2012 Jaccob Slavin - 4th Round
2013 Brett Pesce - 3rd Round
2014 Warren Foegele - 3rd Round
2015 Steven Lorentz - 7th Round
2015 Nicolas Roy - 4th Round
2017 Morgan Geekie - 3rd Round
2019 Anttoni Honka - 3rd Round
2020 Alexander Pashin - 7th Round
2020 Ronan Seeley - 7th Round
2021 Robert Orr - 5th Round
2021 Justin Robidas - 5th Round
2022 Simon Forsmark - 4th Round
2022 Vladimir Grudinin - 5th Round
2022 Alexander Pelevin - 7th Round

Looks pretty solid and it's only gotten better recently. Well said Juiceman
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 6:29 p.m.
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Dear Dom,

Are you happy with the Petry trade.

From, Dev
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 6:56 p.m.
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That seems low for bratt


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Jul. 16, 2022 at 6:56 p.m.
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That seems low for bratt




Kempe comparable maybe? Although he should be asking for 7 x 7
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 6:57 p.m.
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Kempe comparable maybe? Although he should be asking for 7 x 7


Yeah I wouldn’t hesitate to give bratt 7 x 7
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 7:02 p.m.
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So, to finish out the offseason, I think Hughes goes with:
PLD to Montreal for something that includes Anderson, Guhle, Dach
Hughes signs John Klingberg to something like 7x7.
Byron and Armia get traded.


I don't think any of those things happen.

MTL shouldn't target Dubois until he's actually UFA. Best case scenario they also have Bedard at this point. Acquiring Dubois now seriously hinders this process.

MTL currently doesn't have the cap to sign Klingberg, and frankly I don't see why he'd go there. They're not going to be competitive for like 2-3 years and there's better options now. I like the fit in Buffalo, but he could end up in Seattle, Ottawa or Islanders.

No one wants Byron and Armia. Overpaid bottom-6 players.
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 7:02 p.m.
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Doesn't look good up until recently for the Canes.

2020 - Seth Jarvis
2019 - Ryan Suzuki
2018 - Andrei Svechnikov
2017 - Martin Necas (?????)
2016 - Jake Bean (Traded CBJ)
2016 - Julien Gauthier (Traded NYR)
2015 - Noah Hanifin (Traded CGY)
2014 - Haydn Fleury (Traded ANA)
2013 - Elias Lindholm (Traded CGY)
2011 - Ryan Murphy (Traded CGY and off to Russia)
2010 - Jeff Skinner (Traded BUF)
2009 - Philippe Paradis (Traded TOR, gone off the face of the Earth)
2008 - Zach Boychuk (Waivers PIT)
2007 - Brandon Sutter (Traded PIT)
2005 - Jack Johnson (Traded LAK, and Stanley Cup Champ)


2022 - Nemec
2021 - Hughes, Stillman
2020 - Holtz, Mercer, Mukhmudullin
2019 - Hughes
2018 - Smith (traded)
2017 - Hischier
2016 - McLeod
2015 - Zacha (traded)

If only we did this last week, Devils would have all of theirs
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 7:03 p.m.
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Kempe comparable maybe? Although he should be asking for 7 x 7


Quoting: Db1899
Yeah I wouldn’t hesitate to give bratt 7 x 7


Reports are that Bratts agent is trying to get every last penny. My guess is 7x7 too
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 7:10 p.m.
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Dallas has been pretty solid outside of the top 2 rounds as well:
-Mike Smith, 5th round in 2001 hushed
-Jamie Benn, 5th round in 2007
-Reilly Smith, 3rd round in 2009
-John Klingberg, 5th round in 2010
-Esa Lindell, 3rd round in 2012
-Nick Paul, 4th round in 2013
-Jacob Peterson, 5th round in 2017

Youngsters, who are among our top prospects right now:
-Fredrik Karlstrom, 3rd round in 2016
-Oscar Back, 3rd round in 2018
-Adam Mascherin, 4th round in 2018
-Riley Damiani, 5th round in 2018
-Antonio Stranges, 4th round in 2020
I won't count anyone from 2021, but there are some promising guys in that draft class as well.
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 7:36 p.m.
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Columbus' window is close to open - a few more things going right and they'll have a chance sooner rather than later.
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 7:39 p.m.
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HOFer Jack Johnson?


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Jul. 16, 2022 at 8:01 p.m.
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 8:05 p.m.
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HOFer Jack Johnson?




Canes legend and Stanley Cup Winner... HOF lock
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 8:43 p.m.
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Not sure why, but dikc and fart jokes give me so much joy.

I have laughed at this more times than I care to admit.
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 8:53 p.m.
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I don't think any of those things happen.

MTL shouldn't target Dubois until he's actually UFA. Best case scenario they also have Bedard at this point. Acquiring Dubois now seriously hinders this process.

MTL currently doesn't have the cap to sign Klingberg, and frankly I don't see why he'd go there. They're not going to be competitive for like 2-3 years and there's better options now. I like the fit in Buffalo, but he could end up in Seattle, Ottawa or Islanders.

No one wants Byron and Armia. Overpaid bottom-6 players.


I agree, no need for us to take Dubois on right now, a) we have all the leverage on WPG, wait until the right deal comes and b) let’s evaluate the centers we have before acquiring one. I also agree Klingberg to MTL doesn’t make sense though I think MTL is likely to move a winger ( whether Drou, Hoffman, Armia or Byron )
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 9:05 p.m.
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Not sure why, but dikc and fart jokes give me so much joy.

I have laughed at this more times than I care to admit.

idk who this person is but if I had twitter I’d follow them, they’re always like the suggested tweet below things tweeted by insiders or whatever, and every tweet is a banger lmao
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 9:07 p.m.
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Columbus' window is close to open - a few more things going right and they'll have a chance sooner rather than later.

Is it? Dom’s model still had them as a bottom 10 team even with Gaudreau. They still have no centres or D outside Werenski
Jul. 16, 2022 at 9:18 p.m.
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Not sure why, but dikc and fart jokes give me so much joy.

I have laughed at this more times than I care to admit.


Absolutely fantastic tears of joy
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 9:19 p.m.
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Had to check the Leafs:

2020 Amirov
2018 Sandin
2017 Liljegren
2016 Matthews
2015 Marner
2014 Nylander
2013 Gauthier (left FA)
2012 Rielly
2011 Biggs + Percy
2009 Kadri (traded)
2008 Schenn (traded)
2006 Tlusty (traded)
2005 Rask (traded)


****ing 2011 was Burke's worst year and made me want to die considering the fact Gibson and Rakell could have been leafs. And man the 2013 eyesore lul

Could have had Theodore, Hartman, or Burakovsky
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 9:19 p.m.
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Is it? Dom’s model still had them as a bottom 10 team even with Gaudreau. They still have no centres or D outside Werenski


Wrong Dom I thought about 💀
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 9:24 p.m.
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****ing 2011 was Burke's worst year and made me want to die considering the fact Gibson and Rakell could have been leafs. And man the 2013 eyesore lul

Could have had Theodore, Hartman, or Burakovsky


Hey, nothing beats Burke declining to move Schenn for 2009 2nd overall pick.

Imagine Hedman with the Leafs 💀
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 9:43 p.m.
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Hey, nothing beats Burke declining to move Schenn for 2009 2nd overall pick.

Imagine Hedman with the Leafs 💀


While its not as good of a return I did enjoy JVR especially in the beginning of the Matthews ERA but yeah Hedman on the Leafs would 10000000000X better

**** YOU BURKE AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Jul. 16, 2022 at 9:44 p.m.
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Is it? Dom’s model still had them as a bottom 10 team even with Gaudreau. They still have no centres or D outside Werenski


I mean, Werenski’s CBJ’s top D but Gavrikov and Peeke are both solid defensively and physical guys ( something they lacked a bit hence adding Gudbaranson ) and guys like Boqvist, Blankenburg, Bean are more skill guys, their defence isn’t exactly good but it’s not bad on paper. CBJ’s forward are also stacked ( even if missing a top Center ). Now they would need to clear cap to sign Laine but Voracek-Jenner-Laine, Nyquist-Sillinger-Bjorkstrand, Johnson-Roslovic-Texier is pretty promising
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