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2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #8 - Gone Fishing

Jul. 15, 2022 at 12:51 p.m.
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Teams that got better than last season (on paper)

Carolina Hurricanes
Columbus Blue Jackets
Washington Capitals
Detroit Red Wings
Edmonton Oilers
Los Angeles Kings
Nashville Predators
New Jersey Devils
Ottawa Senators
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Teams that are pretty much the same as last season (on paper)

Anaheim Ducks
Arizona Coyotes
Boston Bruins
Buffalo Sabres
Dallas Stars
Montreal Canadiens
New York Islanders
Philadelphia Flyers
Pittsburgh Penguins
San Jose Sharks
St. Louis Blues
Vancouver Canucks
Winnipeg Jets

Teams that got worse than last season (on paper)

Florida Panthers
Colorado Avalanche
Chicago Blackhawks
Calgary Flames
Minnesota Wild
New York Rangers
Tampa Bay Lightning
Toronto Maple Leafs
Vegas Golden Knights


Didn't Carolina, Columbus, Tampa, Calgary, Florida and LA goaltenders stay the same?
Jul. 15, 2022 at 12:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil
Didn't Carolina, Columbus, Tampa, Calgary, Florida and LA goaltenders stay the same?


It's the team overall, not just goaltending
Jul. 15, 2022 at 12:55 p.m.
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It's the team overall, not just goaltending


Im slow lol
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Jul. 15, 2022 at 1:00 p.m.
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It's the team overall, not just goaltending


Looks good then (maybe Arizona down)
Jul. 15, 2022 at 1:18 p.m.
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I hate ledecky lol. Guy is just a mouthpiece
Jul. 15, 2022 at 1:20 p.m.
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In two years the rangers will have about 45 mill tied up into Zibanejad, Trocheck, Kreider, Panarin, Goodrow and Trouba. They will all be in their 30s, I don’t want to hear that the rangers have this long window to contend. They have another year or 2 at best.
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Jul. 15, 2022 at 1:37 p.m.
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Looks good then (maybe Arizona down)


Losing guys like Eriksson, Roussel, Beagle is addition by substraction. Their younger guys that will replace them will probably make them a better team.
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Jul. 15, 2022 at 1:59 p.m.
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In two years the rangers will have about 45 mill tied up into Zibanejad, Trocheck, Kreider, Panarin, Goodrow and Trouba. They will all be in their 30s, I don’t want to hear that the rangers have this long window to contend. They have another year or 2 at best.


The counter is the absolutely stacked d corps they will be able to ice going forward:
Fox, Miller, Lindgren, Lundkvist, Schneider, Jones.
An embarrassment of riches on the backend, could honestly be the best the league's ever seen when all the guys are entering their prime in 2-3 years time.
Jul. 15, 2022 at 2:01 p.m.
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Losing guys like Eriksson, Roussel, Beagle is addition by substraction. Their younger guys that will replace them will probably make them a better team.


I will not stand for this Eriksson slander.
Someone ban this guy.
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Jul. 15, 2022 at 2:05 p.m.
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Losing guys like Eriksson, Roussel, Beagle is addition by substraction. Their younger guys that will replace them will probably make them a better team.

Yeah, they replaced them with... Zack Kassian and a bunch of rookies that might be 3rd liners one day (Maccelli, Jenik, McBain, Smith). Idk, I don't think they'll really be that much better. If they trade Chychrun they're a lost cause. Best case scenario is Guenther and Soderstrom make the leap to being full-time guys and succeed, but because there's no depth to help them grow organically, they might get forced into too big of a role too early in their careers. They did have a very good 2022 draft, but none of those players will be in the NHL next year (maybe Geekie gets a handful of games because he's got NHL size, and Cooley might get a look at the end of the year if he decides to only spend one year in college, but that's it).
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Jul. 15, 2022 at 2:13 p.m.
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Yeah, they replaced them with... Zack Kassian and a bunch of rookies that might be 3rd liners one day (Maccelli, Jenik, McBain, Smith). Idk, I don't think they'll really be that much better. If they trade Chychrun they're a lost cause. Best case scenario is Guenther and Soderstrom make the leap to being full-time guys and succeed, but because there's no depth to help them grow organically, they might get forced into too big of a role too early in their careers. They did have a very good 2022 draft, but none of those players will be in the NHL next year (maybe Geekie gets a handful of games because he's got NHL size, and Cooley might get a look at the end of the year if he decides to only spend one year in college, but that's it).


Only Kessel's production will be hard to replace imo, but I still don't see the Coyotes as a significantly worse team than last year but definitely not better which is why I put them in "Teams that are pretty much the same as last season (on paper)". I'd take Kassian over Roussel as much as I'd take Bjugstad over Beagle, Soderstrom can grow and replace Stralman, guys like Maccelli can replace Galchenyuk.
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Jul. 15, 2022 at 2:16 p.m.
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The counter is the absolutely stacked d corps they will be able to ice going forward:
Fox, Miller, Lindgren, Lundkvist, Schneider, Jones.
An embarrassment of riches on the backend, could honestly be the best the league's ever seen when all the guys are entering their prime in 2-3 years time.


Fox is a superstar, but Miller/Schneider likely top out as good 2nd pair D, same with Jones.

Lundkvist has the most potential of all of the D and he’ll likely be traded. It’s not like NYR have multiple elite defenseman like Colorado or NSH 4 years ago (josi, Ellis, Subban). They have one star and a bunch of solid two way D
Jul. 15, 2022 at 2:17 p.m.
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Fox is a superstar, but Miller/Schneider likely top out as good 2nd pair D, same with Jones.

Lundkvist has the most potential of all of the D and he’ll likely be traded. It’s not like NYR have multiple elite defenseman like Colorado or NSH 4 years ago (josi, Ellis, Subban). They have one star and a bunch of solid two way D


Are you telling me that Braden Schneider is not the second coming of Bobby Orr???
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Jul. 15, 2022 at 2:19 p.m.
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Ummm...what happened to thread #7 "Free Agent Frenzy" (It's not listed on the NHL thread page anymore)? Asking for a friend...
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Jul. 15, 2022 at 2:22 p.m.
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I like Kadri but whatever team he’s on i hope he puts up under 45 pts next season. Maybe one day teams won’t give $ and term to 30 year old players coming off a career season.
Jul. 15, 2022 at 2:22 p.m.
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Losing guys like Eriksson, Roussel, Beagle is addition by substraction. Their younger guys that will replace them will probably make them a better team.


@Juiceman Eriksson slander
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Jul. 15, 2022 at 2:25 p.m.
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Ummm...what happened to thread #7 "Free Agent Frenzy" (It's not listed on the NHL thread page anymore)? Asking for a friend...


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I fat-thumbed closing thread #7 because the ads here make my screen jump. She's gonzo for good boys. My Bad.


Its gone. Just like Blackhawks fans hopes of Kyle Davidson making a good move this offseason
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Jul. 15, 2022 at 2:25 p.m.
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Ummm...what happened to thread #7 "Free Agent Frenzy" (It's not listed on the NHL thread page anymore)? Asking for a friend...


Beter destroyed it
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Jul. 15, 2022 at 2:26 p.m.
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Ummm...what happened to thread #7 "Free Agent Frenzy" (It's not listed on the NHL thread page anymore)? Asking for a friend...

Beter sent it into the void. Totally on purpose btw, Beter never makes mistakes
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Jul. 15, 2022 at 2:28 p.m.
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Only Kessel's production will be hard to replace imo, but I still don't see the Coyotes as a significantly worse team than last year but definitely not better which is why I put them in "Teams that are pretty much the same as last season (on paper)". I'd take Kassian over Roussel as much as I'd take Bjugstad over Beagle, Soderstrom can grow and replace Stralman, guys like Maccelli can replace Galchenyuk.

Yeah that’s fair. I didn’t actually look at the list lol, the comment I was replying to made it sound like you had them as an improved team. They should wind up in the same area next year, fighting for the best odds at Bedard (although I will admit that doing so with young players getting their feet wet is probably better than doing so with veterans that just suck for the Coyotes future, it just won’t yield different results next season).
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Jul. 15, 2022 at 3:04 p.m.
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@EsoYeezus69 I think you broke your own record for most likes with your post in the Pacioretty trade thread smile
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Jul. 15, 2022 at 3:08 p.m.
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EsoYeezus69 I think you broke your own record for most likes with your post in the Pacioretty trade thread smile


Close, but not close enough. The yes meme in the Forsberg one has 1 more with 53, and my most liked one has 70. Ironically enough it’s the exact same meme as the one in the Pacioretty trade thread with the exact same situation (Fleury trade thread).
Jul. 15, 2022 at 3:08 p.m.
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Close, but not close enough. The yes meme in the Forsberg one has 2 more with 50, and my most liked one has 70. Ironically enough it’s the exact same meme as the one in the Pacioretty trade thread with the exact same situation (Fleury trade thread).


70?!

I bet there are actual users on here who don't have 70 likes PERIOD
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Jul. 15, 2022 at 3:09 p.m.
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70?!

I bet there are actual users on here who don't have 70 likes PERIOD


See for yourself
Jul. 15, 2022 at 3:10 p.m.
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I unliked it

Now its at 69
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