Damn you really want him!

Unless macdavid or draisaitl are coming back it's a no

Detroit declines

Detroit declines. Make it Draisaitl and 1st. RD like Seider don't come along very often

Obviously a no from detroit

this whole post is ridiculous

While the proposal is substantial, the idea of trading a player who could become a generational defenseman for years and a build block and eventual cup contender makes this trade moot. While Seider has had very good and Calder Trophy winning season, and many will say he could fail, he is not a player who is dealt from a rebuilding team. While the offer fills needs on a Red Wings rebuild, the players, all high prospects, there is nothing to say they will progress to the point that Seider has achieved in one season. To put it in perspective it is better to have a bird in hand then two in the bush. Seider has performed beyond what most people thought and teams do not trade that kind of talent unless they are bereft on talent to restock the cupboard and that is not where Wings are in this rebuild.

Edmonton declines with prejudice.

The comments from Detroit fans show just how crazy they are. SEVEN (count 'em!) 1st round picks and they say it's not enough!

Nobody is going to pay that much for Seider.

Easy no from Edmonton lol

Seider is untouchable.

We agree.



No Wings fan would post something so ridiculous!

Your comments are even more ridiculous.

And I bet if someone offered the same when McDavidwas a rookie, you would have declined, so please get off your high horse, Please. Funny you mention seven 1st round picks like they are all sure things. Nothing is sure, but having a player who has performed above what he was expected, is an asset, sure I said the trade was substantial, but also prefaced the comment Seider has played a whole season and played very well. Not one of the prospects in that trade has played a whole season in the NHL nor have those future 1st. As an Oler fan you should understand busts coming out of 1st round picks, like Yakupov, he was highly regarded and turned into a major bust. At least thr 1st impression is Seider will be a top notch defenseman for years.

But nowhere near as ridiculous as yours!

So you're comparing Seider to McDavid? Wings fans must be even more delusional than I thought!

Look, I like Seider and think he's a stud. But that package is ridiculous.

Wings fans on here comparing Seider to McDavid and Draisaitl should take a look at this:

Seider v Bouchard

Bouchard (10th overall 2018) scored 50% more than Seider (6th overall 2019). And before you scream about teammates, look at his IPP - 50% v just 34% for Seider. He's a key part of the offense in Edmonton. To be fair Seider had fewer OZFO than Bouchard, 45% to 55%.

I really like Bouchard and wouldn't trade him. But if the Oilers were rebuilding and someone offered a package like that? I'd drive him to the airport myself.

To pretend that this crazy offer is somehow slanted in Edmonton's favor takes a special kind of delusion. You're overvaluing your guy by many, many miles.

Neutral party here but I think another reason Detroit fans are resisting it isn't because the compensation isn't fair (it's more than enough in a vacuum) but that making this type of move would run counter to everything they've done in the past year, hell, even the past month.

They traded a pick for Ville Husso and signed him to 3x$4.75M, then went out and spent big money on Ben Chiarot, David Perron, and Andrew Copp. The team is obviously making the push towards contention right now, and a guy like Seider, who looks like a franchise cornerstone RD currently on his ELC, should be as close to untouchable as anyone would be. Trading Seider for a package that's -all- futures is taking a huge step back after the steps you've taken forward this month, which is why Red Wings fans would easily shoot this deal down despite the overpay.

It's not all futures though. Look again. Broberg and Holloway will be in the NHL full time this year. Bourgault would make the Detroit roster, although he may start in the AHL in Edmonton (although he nearly made the team out of camp last season). And Detroit is still in the rebuild, they aren't a contender.

This is just ludicrous. I'm not defending this trade in any way - Holland would be fired if he did something so crazy - but the reaction from Detroit fans shows just how deep their homerism / naval-gazing / echo chamber goes.

In the context of Detroit: Broberg would be LD3 at best for a team that just spent ~$7M on Ben Chiarot and Olli Maata. Not going to argue about who's the better player, just that you and i both know that those dudes are going to get the better spots just based on the contracts they just got. Holloway falls in the same boat - this team has Vrana/Bertuzzi/Raymond already on the roster and just signed David Perron & Andrew Copp. At best, Bourgault or Holloway would be on the 3rd line because, again, a team isn't signing David Perron to a $4.75M deal to play him 11 minutes a night on the 4th line.

You can argue that you don't think Detroit is ready to contend, but every move that they've made this summer screams the opposite. Whether or not *you* think the roster is ready to contend is irrelevant when everything their management is doing makes it easy to figure out that they think this is the beginning of their window. And that's why Wings fans aren't going to want to trade their top-pair RD1 for a bunch of prospects who haven't proven anything in the NHL yet.

Detroit is aiming for relevancy this year. Yzerman isn't stupid enough to think they're a contender just because he signed some middle-of-the-roster types.

They'll be happy if they're within 10 points of a wild card spot come seasons end.

Anyways, Edmonton isn't offering their entire stable of high-end prospects and picks for Seider. I mean, Holland already refused to include Broberg in any Chychrun talks, he sure as hell isn't going to make a crazy trade like this one.

I did not compare McDavid, at this point but what I said was after his rookie year would Oilers have traded McDavid, for this package No. Please put aside your bias and reread what I wrote. And the same goes for Seider. Both had great 1st seasons, and both teams and fans would not trade their respective players. Where did I say Seider was on par with McDavid in this time frame. I know McDavid is a superstar, I am not dumb. The answer is, I compared their 1st years, so again reread my post. McDavid has to this point had a great career, and Seider is starting out, no kdding But what I did say was Oulers would not have taken the same package after McDavids rookie year and Wings would also not take the same package, my god can you read what is written and not try to over inflate or try to fabricate something I did no say anything that they are the same player.

I question you to look at my post and tell me exactly where I said Seider and McDavid are the same.

Thank You

Wow, that is a little like the frying pan calling the kettle black.

Again, no one is saying that Edmonton *should* make that offer, just trying to make the point that a team that is about to exit its rebuild is not going to give up a guy who put up 50 points as a 20-year-old defenseman. Only 2 guys in the the last 30 years have put up those kind of numbers a rookie D - Cale Makar & Quinn Hughes. I don't see any of the prospects coming back in this deal being mentioned anywhere near that type of level. You're basically trading a dollar bill for a pocketful of change in this deal - except you can't count the change before you get it. Maybe it turns out to be a couple of quarters and half-dollars that add up to more than a buck, maybe it's a pile of nickels and pennies and you lost out on a solid player.