Keeping Sharangovich over Holtz would be a mistake IMO, need that low cap number Holtz will have for the next few years to keep young core together. I'm not huge on either option, but 2 feels much better than 1.

Agreed. But you don't gain traction by trading good, valuable players for bad, low value players. You'd be better off trading those good players for youth or picks as opposed to deadweight from other teams.

Islanders reject their d core is set as of rn so why should they trade a forward who they need in the upcoming season?

It has been reported that PLD was at the draft in MTL with the expectation that a deal would get done sending him to MTL.

As a habs fan, I'm not interested in trading Guhle for Dubois... but oddly enough Romanov got traded and he would have made sense here instead of Guhle.

I also wonder why MTL traded Romanov and a couple picks for Dach if they are still trying to acquire Dubois? Did they give all that up for Dach to be a 3C? Maybe he gets flipped to WPG?

Yeah I can see that, think going full rebuild requires seeing them out. I opted for a "retool" for the sake of keeping fans engaged, but I can see the benefit of going all in.

You see these guys as low value? I can see the argument for Johansen maybe but other than that, all proven middle 6 guys and some potential to be more.

I hate this BS approach that management uses. For too long they’ve been stuck in the middle of a rebuild and competing. The past 3 years they’ve been stuck in that spot and it’s the worst place you can be. I’d hate to see it, but I’d rather see Chevy go all in and go for it than sell some here, buy some there. Commit one way or the other and the fanbase will be more satisfied with that then playing with your thumbs while other teams act with confidence.

I don’t mind the base of a lot of these trades. Not sure NYI does that as they added Romanov for a top 13 pick so I’d imagine they hope he plays top 4. But Lou loves guys like Dillon so who knows. I actually love the NSH trade, just not sure NSH would, although getting out of Johansens deal may be attractive. I feel like NJ makes out pretty well in that deal, jets get good value as well. I think MTL won’t want to move Guhle, but I feel like something around Barron + Dvorak and a 1st could be made.

In relation to what the Jets are giving up they are.

From Montreal the Jets are getting:

Byron - cap dump
Dvorak - meh 3C
Guhle - unneeded LD prospect

Nashville:

Johansen - more expensive, much worse player

Jersey:

Blackwood - low end, bad backup
A couple unneeded wingers.

The trades fill no holes for the Jets and serve to drop the Jets talent level, but not far enough to tank.

If the Jets trade Helly, Scheifele and Dubois then they have to do a full rebuild and move Ehlers and Connor as well.

Dvorak can be a solid 2C replacement for Dubois. He looked good under MSL and could produce some points if given scoring wingers. I’d rather see Barron in that deal over Guhle to address positional needs.

Getting askarov from NSH is the main attraction to that deal. Jets have no goalie of the future and that deal provides them with one while also bringing in a veteran C who can still produce.

The Jersey trade is good for Winnipeg. Hellebuyck is only going to have 2 years with NJ and who knows what his next deal looks like. Jets have played the crap out of him and I’m not sold on longevity. Sharangovich adds to a weak group of wingers and Foote is a decent prospect, I’d rather see a bit different of a package for hellebuyck like mentioned above by a Devils fan.

I see these deals as exactly what a retooling team would do. Adding youth while shipping out older guys on deals without long term deals.

Well have to agree to disagree. These trades just reduce the Jets overall talent level, but not enough to be truly bad.

It just moves the Jets farther away from competing but still keeps them above the real bad teams. It really just gives the Jets further to climb to get out of the mushy middle.

In other words the same thing they've been doing for years.