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Created by: Boojets
Team: 2022-23 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 18, 2022
Published: Jul. 18, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,000,000
2$1,500,000
2$950,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,750,000
Trades
1.
WPG
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni
  2. Dvorak, Christian
  3. Roy, Joshua
  4. 2023 1st round pick (MTL)
  5. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
Additional Details:
the Montreal pick is top 5 protected. This is the cost of a 1c if Montreal doesn't like it wait for 2 yrs
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
2.
WPG
  1. Zucker, Jason ($1,500,000 retained)
  2. 2024 4th round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Wheeler, Blake ($1,500,000 retained)
3.
WPG
  1. Hamonic, Travis
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (OTT)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (WSH)
4.
WPG
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [RFA Rights]
EDM
  1. Harkins, Jansen
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (WSH)
5.
WPG
  1. Severson, Damon
Additional Details:
Signs a new deal 5yr at 5.75mil
6.
VGK
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. 2024 4th round pick (PIT)
7.
WPG
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (COL)
  2. 2024 4th round pick (ANA)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$77,408,690$0$2,262,500$5,091,310
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$4,750,000$4,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 4
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,166,667$6,166,667
G
UFA - 2
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$900,000$900,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$5,950,000$5,950,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Jul. 18, 2022 at 11:30 a.m.
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It is the normal price, not the price a team pays when they know they can just sign him for free.

I get the commotion about this possibility but theres no way Winnipeg gets proper value for PLD from MTL
Jul. 18, 2022 at 11:30 a.m.
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That's way too much to ask for Dubois, even if it wasn't the current situation lol (and I'm a Jets fan)
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Jul. 18, 2022 at 11:38 a.m.
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Montreal gladly waits the two years instead of paying that ridiculous price. They're rebuilding anyways.
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Jul. 18, 2022 at 11:58 a.m.
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See ya in 2
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Jul. 18, 2022 at 12:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
It is the normal price, not the price a team pays when they know they can just sign him for free.

I get the commotion about this possibility but theres no way Winnipeg gets proper value for PLD from MTL


Its not even the normal price, it's literally 4 1st round picks (one likely between 6-8) and 2 2nd round picks for PLD... that's a massive ask even if PLD was signed to 8 years × 6 or even 5.5M
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Jul. 18, 2022 at 12:15 p.m.
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That is way too expensive for PLD even in normal circumstances. You are overvaluing him by way too much.

That's basically 4 x 1st RD picks in the 1st Rounders, Roy (would have been one this year) and Dvorak which costs a 1st.
Then there's Dadonov who can fetch a good amount at the TDL.

That's a massive haul for PLD, who, although young, still has yet to accomplish much of anything in this league. Eclipsed 60 points twice in his 4 year NHL career. Suzuki has done better and I doubt you'd trade all that for Suzuki. Let's calm down a bit.
Jul. 19, 2022 at 11:46 a.m.
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Quoting: Priyce
That is way too expensive for PLD even in normal circumstances. You are overvaluing him by way too much.

That's basically 4 x 1st RD picks in the 1st Rounders, Roy (would have been one this year) and Dvorak which costs a 1st.
Then there's Dadonov who can fetch a good amount at the TDL.

That's a massive haul for PLD, who, although young, still has yet to accomplish much of anything in this league. Eclipsed 60 points twice in his 4 year NHL career. Suzuki has done better and I doubt you'd trade all that for Suzuki. Let's calm down a bit.


Roy isn't a 1st round pick and Dvorak most certainly isn't a 1st round pick no matter what montreal past GM paid for him. AT his price point good luck getting even a 2nd for dvorak. Oh and that panther pick will be what 28-32? Also much closer to value to a 2nd round pick. Go online google draft pick value, prospect values do some research and just don't be a Homer for the team.

Lets actually look at the pieces and there value using GSAA;
Dubois if traded today likely signs a 8yr deal in montreal meaning his GSAA over that time is around 16.
Montreal 1st lets say it becomes the 5th OV worth around 8.2 GSAA
florida 1st lets say its the 28th OV is worth around 3.1 GSAA
Dvorak over the next 3 yrs of his contract is around 2.5 GSAA
Dadanov is a cap dump to make salary work 0 GSAA (feel free to take him out of the trade)
So Roy to make of the rest of the value has to be worth around 2.2 GVAA which is around the 39th OV pick

It really is about what Dubois is worth.
Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:03 p.m.
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Roy isn't a 1st round pick and Dvorak most certainly isn't a 1st round pick no matter what montreal past GM paid for him. AT his price point good luck getting even a 2nd for dvorak. Oh and that panther pick will be what 28-32? Also much closer to value to a 2nd round pick. Go online google draft pick value, prospect values do some research and just don't be a Homer for the team.

Lets actually look at the pieces and there value using GSAA;
Dubois if traded today likely signs a 8yr deal in montreal meaning his GSAA over that time is around 16.
Montreal 1st lets say it becomes the 5th OV worth around 8.2 GSAA
florida 1st lets say its the 28th OV is worth around 3.1 GSAA
Dvorak over the next 3 yrs of his contract is around 2.5 GSAA
Dadanov is a cap dump to make salary work 0 GSAA (feel free to take him out of the trade)
So Roy to make of the rest of the value has to be worth around 2.2 GVAA which is around the 39th OV pick

It really is about what Dubois is worth.


There's one thing you are missing, is that Dubois trade value is current down the gutter. He did that himself. Montreal is also a rebuilding team, they are not going to give up 1st RD picks for someone they can wait 2 years to sign. Dubois has only hit the 60 points total twice in his career, yes he is young, but is a 2C realistically.

I'd rather give up a 2nd RD pick than giving up Roy. I don't expect you to know much about the Habs prospects however Roy can't be apart of this trade. Montreal's 1st RD pick either.
Jul. 19, 2022 at 12:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Priyce
There's one thing you are missing, is that Dubois trade value is current down the gutter. He did that himself. Montreal is also a rebuilding team, they are not going to give up 1st RD picks for someone they can wait 2 years to sign. Dubois has only hit the 60 points total twice in his career, yes he is young, but is a 2C realistically.

I'd rather give up a 2nd RD pick than giving up Roy. I don't expect you to know much about the Habs prospects however Roy can't be apart of this trade. Montreal's 1st RD pick either.


I know Roy as a prospect really well. Hes a good prospect but not in anyway elite. And I think multiple independent people doing prospect work would agree on that. Listen I know every team over hypes their teams prospects so I would recommend going to see what some of the prospect models and scouts say about your teams prospects. And if montreal doesn't want to pay the price don't pay it. Go also know there is risk that he won't sign in Montreal and if he does it will likely be more far more money than they can sign him more right now. What Montreal should be doing it talking to Dubois and playing hard ball saying they will give him 8yrs and 7-7.5mil. If he wants montreal so bad show them by signing a team friendly deal giving montreal even more value to make the deal.
 
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