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Realistic Dubios trade

Created by: Super_Randy
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 19, 2022
Published: Jul. 19, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
I really did try to make a decent Dubois trade
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$875,000
2$2,400,000
8$7,700,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Drouin, Jonathan ($2,750,000 retained)
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (MTL)
2.
MTL
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (WSH)
ARI
  1. Hoffman, Mike
  2. 2023 4th round pick (PIT)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (COL)
  4. 2024 7th round pick (EDM)
3.
WPG
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Dvorak, Christian
  3. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (MTL)
  5. 2024 1st round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
WPG get the better of either of the 2023 FLA 1st or the MTL 1st unless one or both are top 10 picks, then WPG gets the worse of the two 1st round picks.

2024 1st top 5 protection goes for Pionk
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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Logo of the MTL
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2024
Logo of the MTL
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Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$69,228,332$1,132,500$4,982,500$13,271,668
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$7,700,000$7,700,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,400,000$2,400,000
C, RW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$825,000$825,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$880,833$880,833
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$5,875,000$5,875,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,875,000$2,875,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 2
Taxi Squad
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$830,000$830,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$838,333$838,333 ($0$0$0$0)
C
UFA - 1

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Jul. 19, 2022 at 10:47 p.m.
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Lol. Well you didn't try hard enough. The Winnipeg trade is closer of you take out Pionk and Dubois.
Jul. 19, 2022 at 10:47 p.m.
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Hoffman and Drouin has positive value
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Jul. 19, 2022 at 10:48 p.m.
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Devils barley have the cap space to sign their own RFAs, no way are they interested in taking on Drouin if he is at 50% retained
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Jul. 19, 2022 at 10:48 p.m.
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“Realistic” is the most overused word on AGM. Realistic for a team that could be bottoming out to give up 2 firsts for a guy who asks out of everywhere he goes. Dvorak, 2nd and prospect. Move on
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Jul. 19, 2022 at 10:51 p.m.
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Every trade is horrible for the habs HORRIBLE
Jul. 19, 2022 at 10:57 p.m.
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Pionk is worth a first plus

Armia and the 2nd nets it out

So that leaves Dubois for Dvorak and part of a first

No thanks
Jul. 19, 2022 at 10:59 p.m.
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Will be interesting what’s on hughes list of exit Montreal and how many they can stick Winnipeg with, still think it’s a drouin/Hoffman/Armia, mailoux, dvorak and Florida first. Montreal going to be able to restock with ufas, so some vets with term aren’t that big of deal. Matter of clearing some cap and roster room going forward. Mailoux might not be touched though so possibly a different prospect of some sort.
Jul. 19, 2022 at 11:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
Lol. Well you didn't try hard enough. The Winnipeg trade is closer of you take out Pionk and Dubois.

You can’t be serious saying armia and dvorak take two firsts and a second to dump
Sure that trade isn’t that good but dvorak is positive value and armia’s value wasn’t that negative
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Jul. 19, 2022 at 11:08 p.m.
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Since when Hoffman has a negative value?
Jul. 19, 2022 at 11:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Zuki9797
You can’t be serious saying armia and dvorak take two firsts and a second to dump
Sure that trade isn’t that good but dvorak is positive value and armia’s value wasn’t that negative


What's interesting is Dvorak's career PPG is 0.5 and Dubois' career PPG is 0.66. Dvorak is 2 years older, but locked up on a cheaper deal. Dvorak is probably the ideal roster player return for WPG.

On the athletic podcast they were talking about WPG's need for a big RW (with Anderson in mind), but Armia also fits that bill.

If MTL adds a sweetener (pick or prospect), than that should be enough for WPG given the circumstances IMO. Hard to see another team offering a better deal than that knowing Dubois won't sign long term.
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Jul. 19, 2022 at 11:38 p.m.
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Devils have no need to do this. Actually less than 0. They have their own contracts that could use shipping out (Tatar, Johnsson). We have 9 mil to sign our RFAs including Bratt and Wood. Devils will not be taking on anymore salary just for the heck of it.
 
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