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If The Leaves Want Matthew

Created by: MikeKeenanHatesMe
Team: 2022-23 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 20, 2022
Published: Jul. 20, 2022
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You want to have 4 players making 7 figures? Fine have at it. Here’s my offer
Free Agent Signings
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6$5,500,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Gilbert, Dennis
  2. Tkachuk, Matthew [RFA Rights]
  3. 2023 6th round pick (CGY)
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2025
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21$82,500,000$71,124,866$0$200,000$11,375,134
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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C
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RD
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$750,000$750,000
G
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$950,000$950,000
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Jul. 20, 2022 at 12:50 a.m.
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Don’t forget Marner, Matthews, Lily, Rielly, Another 1st, and the rest of the picks
Jul. 20, 2022 at 12:50 a.m.
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Knies/Robertson over Niemela and we have a deal, but this must guarantee us an 8-year extension.
Jul. 20, 2022 at 12:52 a.m.
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Quoting: KMarner10
Knies/Robertson over Niemela and we have a deal, but this must guarantee us an 8-year extension.


Little Nicky Robertson was supposed to be an all star by now according to the band of delusional leafers so I’ll pass. Knies is a maybe
Jul. 20, 2022 at 12:57 a.m.
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Quoting: MikeKeenanHatesMe
Little Nicky Robertson was supposed to be an all star by now according to the band of delusional leafers so I’ll pass. Knies is a maybe


Robertson has been hurt, but he has still shown that he is an NHLer. Also, even without him/Knies/Niemela, this trade is still very good value, especially if it is only for Tkachuk. You're getting a p/g winger for MUCH cheaper than Tkachuk, a great young defenseman, a 50-point versatile two-way guy, a cheap RHD, AND a first. It's not like the rest of the trade is scraps.
Jul. 20, 2022 at 12:58 a.m.
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Dubas would be charged for robbery.
Jul. 20, 2022 at 1:01 a.m.
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Nylander and Tkachuk are closer that people think. Tkachuk's physicality gives him an edge, but that edge doesn't give Tkachuk added value of a top prospect and a first. Plus, theres not a fit with the Leafs given our cap situation
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Jul. 20, 2022 at 1:04 a.m.
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Quoting: Nathaniel
Nylander and Tkachuk are closer that people think. Tkachuk's physicality gives him an edge, but that edge doesn't give Tkachuk added value of a top prospect and a first. Plus, theres not a fit with the Leafs given our cap situation


Nylander is a good player who fits a mold in a league where most forwards are lesser versions of him. Tkachuk is in a now rare group of guys who can be power forwards and contribute major offensive output. That’s a rare combo in the game today and it means no they aren’t all that close.
Jul. 20, 2022 at 1:29 a.m.
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What a stupid overpay by the leafs lmao
Jul. 20, 2022 at 1:31 a.m.
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Little Nicky Robertson was supposed to be an all star by now according to the band of delusional leafers so I’ll pass. Knies is a maybe

Leaf fans are delusional but you make this trade offer ? That’s rich
Jul. 20, 2022 at 2:24 a.m.
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CGY could do a lot better
Jul. 20, 2022 at 8:27 a.m.
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Leaf fans are delusional but you make this trade offer ? That’s rich


You’re the ones who want him for basically nothing because “we’re the leafs” and you thi be by our special. Nope pay up or shut it
Jul. 20, 2022 at 8:32 a.m.
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You’re the ones who want him for basically nothing because “we’re the leafs” and you thi be by our special. Nope pay up or shut it


somebody gets really triggered by the leafs.... keep him for that price, overpay
Jul. 20, 2022 at 8:33 a.m.
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CGY could do a lot better


its an absurd overpay
Jul. 20, 2022 at 8:45 a.m.
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its an absurd overpay


Where, all I see is Quantity > Quality
Jul. 20, 2022 at 9:49 a.m.
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Where, all I see is Quantity > Quality


youre realling telling me the difference between nylander and tkachuk is a top prospect, a good young defenseman, kerfoot and a first? lol explain how
Jul. 20, 2022 at 9:57 a.m.
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somebody gets really triggered by the leafs.... keep him for that price, overpay


You haven’t won a cup since Trudeau’s dad was PM. Enjoy losing in the 1st round again
Jul. 20, 2022 at 10:01 a.m.
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You haven’t won a cup since Trudeau’s dad was PM. Enjoy losing in the 1st round again


worry about your own team where your 2 best players left and are leaving because they dont wanna be there, enjoy the rebuild and lucic on line 1
Jul. 20, 2022 at 10:11 a.m.
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Calgary would likely want to start with Marner over Nylander and go from there.

Feel like Knies is going to be able to handle the role Tkachuk would play on Toronto when he comes to the team, so personally I'd pass.
Jul. 20, 2022 at 10:16 a.m.
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youre realling telling me the difference between nylander and tkachuk is a top prospect, a good young defenseman, kerfoot and a first? lol explain how


Tkachuk has 100 points. Kerfoot has no value, Holl is a cap dump and that first is going to be 20+
Jul. 20, 2022 at 10:25 a.m.
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Tkachuk has 100 points. Kerfoot has no value, Holl is a cap dump and that first is going to be 20+


now do playoff points, a 51 point player withoout any PP time who plays all 3 forward positions and is a good penalty killer ha value, that narrative is very ignorant, holl can get a 6th lol
Jul. 20, 2022 at 2:41 p.m.
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nope, not for that. Leafs dont want tkachuk.
Jul. 20, 2022 at 2:45 p.m.
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now do playoff points, a 51 point player withoout any PP time who plays all 3 forward positions and is a good penalty killer ha value, that narrative is very ignorant, holl can get a 6th lol


Holl has value in the fact he's a right handed defensive defenseman. There's a big portion of GMs who overvalue those kind of players and there is a reason he hasn't been moved yet; Toronto would lack such a player without him on the roster.

I doubt he gets you closer to Tkachuk but he's hardly a cap dump.
Jul. 20, 2022 at 2:48 p.m.
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Holl has value in the fact he's a right handed defensive defenseman. There's a big portion of GMs who overvalue those kind of players and there is a reason he hasn't been moved yet; Toronto would lack such a player without him on the roster.

I doubt he gets you closer to Tkachuk but he's hardly a cap dump.


yeah not saying he will, but the kerfoot no value and holl cap dump narrative is tiring and ignorant
Jul. 20, 2022 at 2:50 p.m.
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yeah not saying he will, but the kerfoot no value and holl cap dump narrative is tiring and ignorant


Kerfoot is a bit harder to move because there's a good number of guys who are able to play the role he does, but he's not a negative asset. I think someone like Minnesota, Seattle, Calgary (in a less bombastic trade) could be interested if the price is low.

But they are two guys you see a lot in trades here.
Jul. 20, 2022 at 2:53 p.m.
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Kerfoot is a bit harder to move because there's a good number of guys who are able to play the role he does, but he's not a negative asset. I think someone like Minnesota, Seattle, Calgary (in a less bombastic trade) could be interested if the price is low.

But they are two guys you see a lot in trades here.


Calgary will need him in about a weekj
 
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