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Team: 2022-23 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 21, 2022
Published: Jul. 21, 2022
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21$82,500,000$82,402,500$25,000$3,562,500$97,500
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
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C
UFA - 3
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
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$908,333$908,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
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UFA - 3
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$912,500$912,500 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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LD
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RD
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$987,500$987,500
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Jul. 21, 2022 at 12:30 p.m.
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ugly deal
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Jul. 21, 2022 at 12:30 p.m.
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I’m not sure Dvorak is worth a first after last year. I could c Girard for Dvorak and Edmunson. I’m not a huge fan of Edmunson or Dvorak but they each would fill a need.
Jul. 21, 2022 at 12:31 p.m.
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hell no from mtl dont need another rw in the pool
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Jul. 21, 2022 at 12:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles5513
I’m not sure Dvorak is worth a first after last year. I could c Girard for Dvorak and Edmunson. I’m not a huge fan of Edmunson or Dvorak but they each would fill a need.


Dvorak became noticeably better under St. Louis - completely new player. No saying he's worth his but he became much better.
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Jul. 21, 2022 at 12:33 p.m.
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Habs accept is the first is in 2023
Jul. 21, 2022 at 12:34 p.m.
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Quoting: stephane_robidas
Dvorak became noticeably better under St. Louis - completely new player. No saying he's worth his but he became much better.


Matheson and Girard isn’t a bad left side tho
Jul. 21, 2022 at 12:38 p.m.
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Matheson and Girard isn’t a bad left side tho


True. But personally I'd rather the Habs be bad for a year or two and build their d-corps around Guhle, Harris, Arber, Norlinder etc. Feel?
Jul. 21, 2022 at 12:39 p.m.
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Quoting: stephane_robidas
True. But personally I'd rather the Habs be bad for a year or two and build their d-corps around Guhle, Harris, Arber, Norlinder etc. Feel?


I really like Guhle. Not sure if the other guys you mentioned hit tho. I just don’t know enough tbh.
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Jul. 21, 2022 at 12:41 p.m.
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I really like Guhle. Not sure if the other guys you mentioned hit tho. I just don’t know enough tbh.


That's fair. You will love Romy...
Jul. 21, 2022 at 12:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles5513
I really like Guhle. Not sure if the other guys you mentioned hit tho. I just don’t know enough tbh.


Harris is already a NHLer and Xhekaj is a monster, at first I thought maybe a 7th dman, but after watching him with Hamilton, he could be a 3rd pairing guy à la Alexei Emelin
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Jul. 21, 2022 at 12:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles5513
I’m not sure Dvorak is worth a first after last year. I could c Girard for Dvorak and Edmunson. I’m not a huge fan of Edmunson or Dvorak but they each would fill a need.


Why would last year change anything? He literally produced at the highest rate of his career and generally had a better season than the previous year.
Jul. 21, 2022 at 12:48 p.m.
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Dvorak gets slagged a lot for his production versus salary but, believe it or not, his CF%Rel and FF%Rel were better than Lehkonen's when both were with the Habs last year (Lehky's numbers would likely have further improved under MSL had he stayed with MTL; they went way up when he went to COL, lol). All-in-all, he's a good skater, he's young, does well at the dot, plays a 200 ft game, doesn't get caved in. He'd probably do well in Colorado, TBH. If I were MacFarland, I would offer JTC (expiring UFA making $950K less than Dvorak that can play all over the lineup), a 2024 1st and a decent prospect.
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Jul. 21, 2022 at 12:49 p.m.
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Quoting: NMAvsFan
Dvorak gets slagged a lot for his production versus salary but, believe it or not, his CF%Rel and FF%Rel were better than Lehkonen's when both were with the Habs last year (Lehky's numbers would likely have further improved under MSL had he stayed with MTL; they went way up when he went to COL, lol). All-in-all, he's a good skater, he's young, does well at the dot, plays a 200 ft game, doesn't get caved in. He'd probably do well in Colorado, TBH. If I were MacFarland, I would offer JTC (expiring UFA making $950K less than Dvorak that can play all over the lineup), a 2024 1st and a decent prospect.


That’s an overpay imo. I would want to keep Compher for my next cup run.
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Jul. 21, 2022 at 12:51 p.m.
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Quoting: NMAvsFan
Dvorak gets slagged a lot for his production versus salary but, believe it or not, his CF%Rel and FF%Rel were better than Lehkonen's when both were with the Habs last year (Lehky's numbers would likely have further improved under MSL had he stayed with MTL; they went way up when he went to COL, lol). All-in-all, he's a good skater, he's young, does well at the dot, plays a 200 ft game, doesn't get caved in. He'd probably do well in Colorado, TBH. If I were MacFarland, I would offer JTC (expiring UFA making $950K less than Dvorak that can play all over the lineup), a 2024 1st and a decent prospect.


MTL doesn't need more roster player, so you could trade Compher in a seperate trade and get something valuable after the playoffs he just had
Jul. 21, 2022 at 12:54 p.m.
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Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
MTL doesn't need more roster player, so you could trade Compher in a seperate trade and get something valuable after the playoffs he just had


Sure, that's a possibility, too.
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Jul. 21, 2022 at 12:55 p.m.
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That’s an overpay imo. I would want to keep Compher for my next cup run.


I wouldn't worry about it too much - the guy scores some timely goals but he is wildly inconsistent and his underlying numbers are pretty bad. I'd much rather have Devo than JTC.
Jul. 21, 2022 at 12:58 p.m.
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I wouldn't worry about it too much - the guy scores some timely goals but he is wildly inconsistent and his underlying numbers are pretty bad. I'd much rather have Devo than JTC.


I’d rather have both lol. Also I didn’t realize JTC has bad underlying numbers. I just thought he takes dumb penalties.
Jul. 21, 2022 at 1:04 p.m.
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I’d rather have both lol. Also I didn’t realize JTC has bad underlying numbers. I just thought he takes dumb penalties.


His PIMs are not a concern overall - 25 in 70 games this year so .35 minutes a game isn't a big problem. JTC is a weird player: he gets some points and plays in all situations; he's versatile and plays all over the lineup. But, even on a good team, his underlying numbers are not good at all; he drags his linemates down no matter who he plays with. If trading him frees up the space to bring in a guy like Devo, that's a good move.
Jul. 21, 2022 at 1:06 p.m.
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His PIMs are not a concern overall - 25 in 70 games this year so .35 minutes a game isn't a big problem. JTC is a weird player: he gets some points and plays in all situations; he's versatile and plays all over the lineup. But, even on a good team, his underlying numbers are not good at all; he drags his linemates down no matter who he plays with. If trading him frees up the space to bring in a guy like Devo, that's a good move.


Idk if I believe he drags guys numbers down. I’d have to take a closer look at his matchups and line combinations tbh. I feel like he gets moved around to whatever line needs help and that sometimes hurt ur metrics.
Jul. 21, 2022 at 1:09 p.m.
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Idk if I believe he drags guys numbers down. I’d have to take a closer look at his matchups and line combinations tbh. I feel like he gets moved around to whatever line needs help and that sometimes hurt ur metrics.


Every line he plays on gets worse; the common denominator is JTC. But he isn't a 2C and Dvorak has better underlying numbers than him so, if it's a choice between the two, it has to be Devo.
Jul. 21, 2022 at 1:11 p.m.
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Dvorak gets slagged a lot for his production versus salary but, believe it or not, his CF%Rel and FF%Rel were better than Lehkonen's when both were with the Habs last year (Lehky's numbers would likely have further improved under MSL had he stayed with MTL; they went way up when he went to COL, lol). All-in-all, he's a good skater, he's young, does well at the dot, plays a 200 ft game, doesn't get caved in. He'd probably do well in Colorado, TBH. If I were MacFarland, I would offer JTC (expiring UFA making $950K less than Dvorak that can play all over the lineup), a 2024 1st and a decent prospect.


Could be a 60 point player good for 20 goals and provide value with his contract. All situations and most of his production at even strength and only 40% OZone starts, leaves lots of room for further production. You can also use him with that same deployment to get further production by giving another C the favorable minutes Dvorak doesn't need. Even as a 40 point 3C he can provide value.
I would prefer he hit a 60 point pace in Montreal, and Kaut and a 1st don't really convince me to part with him.
Jul. 21, 2022 at 1:23 p.m.
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Could be a 60 point player good for 20 goals and provide value with his contract. All situations and most of his production at even strength and only 40% OZone starts, leaves lots of room for further production. You can also use him with that same deployment to get further production by giving another C the favorable minutes Dvorak doesn't need. Even as a 40 point 3C he can provide value.
I would prefer he hit a 60 point pace in Montreal, and Kaut and a 1st don't really convince me to part with him.


Not sure he's going to be able to hit 60 points in MTL but I understand wanting a bit more for him.
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Jul. 21, 2022 at 1:30 p.m.
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Not sure I'd give that up for Dvorak. Seems like an overpay.
Jul. 21, 2022 at 2:22 p.m.
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Not sure he's going to be able to hit 60 points in MTL but I understand wanting a bit more for him.


Depends on how this season goes. If players develop and perform close to expectations for the full season under MSL, it's only the D and G keeping Montreal at the bottom of the standings. Scoring dried up under Ducharme but returned with St Louis.
Young D are going to have to make up for Petry's absence and having Edmundson available will help the goaltending some.
Jul. 21, 2022 at 2:40 p.m.
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Habs don't take it, they'll want a different prospect
 
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