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2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #9 - The Demise (Revival?) of Calgary

Jul. 22, 2022 at 10:54 a.m.
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Nearly rivals the steal of a contract that is Oliver Ekman-Larsson


Both are nothing compared to majesty of Seth Jones
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 12:10 p.m.
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Goat

Edit: Also, if Thornton & Chara both retire, Craig Anderson is the last active player drafted in the 20th century.
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 12:18 p.m.
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Goat

Edit: Also, if Thornton & Chara both retire, Craig Anderson is the last active player drafted in the 20th century.


Pretty syre Anderson was drafted in the 21st?
Jul. 22, 2022 at 12:26 p.m.
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Pretty syre Anderson was drafted in the 21st?


He was drafted twice, in 1999 and 2001
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 1:05 p.m.
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Situation developing with the 2003 team, if you haven’t seen it yet.
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 1:07 p.m.
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Situation developing with the 2003 team, if you haven’t seen it yet.


this is looking worse and worse for hockey canada, hockey, and the world juniors
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 1:07 p.m.
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Situation developing with the 2003 team, if you haven’t seen it yet.


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this is looking worse and worse for hockey canada, hockey, and the world juniors


What does this mean for Batherson and Formenton, more importantly Batherson. They need to play
Jul. 22, 2022 at 1:08 p.m.
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Doesn't have to be realistic
My Top 5 Favorite Tkachuk Destinations
OTT - I mean. This one is self-explainable, just how does the cap work.
DAL - Would Love to see JRob, Hintz, and Tkachuk long-term in Dallas!
STL - I just really like Tkachuk in St.Louis.
SEA - If they didn't have to give up Beniers or Wright, that would be a great start to a forward core.
NJ - I really like the thought of Tkachuk - Hughes - Holtz/Bratt

Honorable Mentions - EDM, NSH, VGK

My Least Favorite Destinations
BUF - Don't think the Sabres should do this right now, Tkachuk will cost 2 much.
BOS - I mean.
PIT - I don't want him with Crosby, PIT needs to suffer a rebuild
PHI - NO.
WPG
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 1:09 p.m.
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What does this mean for Batherson and Formenton, more importantly Batherson. They need to play


this new article has nothing to do with them unless they were on the 2003 team
Jul. 22, 2022 at 1:09 p.m.
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Situation developing with the 2003 team, if you haven’t seen it yet.


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this is looking worse and worse for hockey canada, hockey, and the world juniors


Thank god we have Rick Westhead.

The guy is the fearless journalist type you see in movies.

I’m glad he’s just being the under taker we needed.
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 1:11 p.m.
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this new article has nothing to do with them unless they were on the 2003 team


Spoiler alert, neither Batherson nor Formenton were on that team.
Likely sucking on pacifiers at the time of this alleged incident.
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 1:13 p.m.
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I mean it was always well-known that Hockey Canada was pompous and complacent, and didn’t actually care about developing talent like the Americans do with the USNTDP or even some of the smaller European nations, likely out of the misguided sense that because Canadians love hockey so much and we’ve always been the best that it will remain that way, but to not even be able to react properly to sexual assault allegations is preposterous and unacceptable for any organization, let alone one as large and influential as Hockey Canada. If you’re getting multiple per year, any logical person would think that the solution is to set up mandatory training sessions for players and staff at the bare minimum and enforce accountability (and also maybe don’t serve minors alcohol just because they won a gold medal?????). I thought it was past time Hockey Canada got an overhaul purely from an on-ice focus. At this point they might as well scrap the entire organization. Clean house and get some intelligent people running the process, rather than just *generic old white male who has been around forever*
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 1:18 p.m.
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Thank god we have Rick Westhead.

The guy is the fearless journalist type you see in movies.

I’m glad he’s just being the under taker we needed.

People like Rick Westhead and Katie Strang (one of the writers on the deep dive piece on this the Athletic published this morning and who was also on top of the Beach stuff) in particular have been excellent this year, we’re truly blessed to have legitimate journalists with integrity working on important stories like these. Bringing stories like these to light is painful but necessary as it’s how we change hockey culture for the better, because right now it’s toxic and elitist at the best of times. Shoutouts to Dan Robson, Ian Mendes, Emily Kaplan, Mark Lazerus, and Ken Campbell too, I think they’ve all been covering this + the Beach story. I think there was some good coverage from the globe and mail on this Hockey Canada stuff as well.
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 1:24 p.m.
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What happens if this drags into training camp? I assume we will know the names involved based on who’s not at training camp?
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 1:24 p.m.
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Situation developing with the 2003 team, if you haven’t seen it yet.


This was the roster for that year:
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:23 p.m.
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This was the roster for that year:
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So pretty much MAF, bottom of the lineup players and some guys I’ve never heard of ( some of the guys I think of as bottom of the lineup players may be recency bias though, haven’t seen the prime of any of those guys minus Fleury )
Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:33 p.m.
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Hearing 8 mill x 5



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Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:34 p.m.
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Hearing 8 mill x 5





That’s a pretty high paid Fortnite player ngl
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:38 p.m.
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Wow that’s an overpay



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Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:42 p.m.
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So pretty much MAF, bottom of the lineup players and some guys I’ve never heard of ( some of the guys I think of as bottom of the lineup players may be recency bias though, haven’t seen the prime of any of those guys minus Fleury )


Most of these guys were from the 2002 draft which was pretty lackluster beyond the top end talent. Rick Nash and Jay Bouwmeester might've been on this team but they were full time NHLers already.

Upshall, Lupul and Bouchard were top 10 picks. Eminger and Gordon were first rounders. Most of these guys either flamed out during the post lockout years or had very brief flashes of prominence. Bouchard and Lupul were supposed to be very good talents but injuries really ruined their careers. Derek Roy was very good for many years in Buffalo but once that team went into it's decade long rebuild he couldn't find a place elsewhere and ended up in Europe. The assortment of Leafs prospects really amounted to nothing, but Stajan had a respectable career in Calgary.

Not going to speculate on who did what, but Jordin Tootoo wrote a book and outlined that most of these guys were getting a lot of female attention during the tournament. It's really unfortunate but it's also not surprising, given how ugly our country's youth hockey culture is once you pop the hood. Hockey Canada should be gutted and entirely restructured.
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:42 p.m.
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Wow that’s an overpay





8.7 million dollar fornite card. who wants it?
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:44 p.m.
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8.7 million dollar fornite card. who wants it?


Think about how many game cosmetics he could buy
Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:45 p.m.
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Wow that’s an overpay





Terrible deal . Tkachuk and Debrincat will get PAID
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:49 p.m.
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This will be the only time I hopefully have to do this: Please review the new global stickied post.

Speculation will not be tolerated. I do want to reiterate though: the conversations surrounding what is happening with Hockey Canada are absolutely vital to changing the culture of this sport. We cannot affect change without having these difficult conversations. Please conduct yourselves with all respect, tact, and understanding in the wake of the news surrounding Canada's WJC teams, the Daryl Katz case, or any other future cases that fall under similar categories.

Be mindful of the trauma that this news can dredge up and how others may react to updates in each individual case. Links are provided in the stickied post should you or someone you know need the assistance. Reaching out is not a sign of weakness.
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:50 p.m.
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This will be the only time I hopefully have to do this: Please review the new global stickied post.

Speculation will not be tolerated. I do want to reiterate though: the conversations surrounding what is happening with Hockey Canada are absolutely vital to changing the culture of this sport. We cannot affect change without having these difficult conversations. Please conduct yourselves with all respect, tact, and understanding in the wake of the news surrounding Canada's WJC teams, the Daryl Katz case, or any other future cases that fall under similar categories.

Be mindful of the trauma that this news can dredge up and how others may react to updates in each individual case. Links are provided in the stickied post should you or someone you know need the assistance. Reaching out is not a sign of weakness.


Yeah tired of comments on posts saying “this guy is going to jail” or “this guy won’t be in the lineup anymore”
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