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2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #9 - The Demise (Revival?) of Calgary

Jul. 22, 2022 at 3:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Db1899
Wow that’s an overpay





It’s maybe an overpay by 700k lol, very good deal, Laine was never going to get paid for his defensive skills, due to his amazing shot and offensive skills, he’s earned that money, even if it’s slightly too much
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 3:08 p.m.
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It’s maybe an overpay by 700k lol, very good deal, Laine was never going to get paid for his defensive skills, due to his amazing shot and offensive skills, he’s earned that money, even if it’s slightly too much


He doesn’t have to be good defensively , he just has to not be the worst defensive forward in the NHL. His shot is the only elite thing about his game, he’s a liability if he’s not scoring
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 3:11 p.m.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
This will be the only time I hopefully have to do this: Please review the new global stickied post.

Speculation will not be tolerated. I do want to reiterate though: the conversations surrounding what is happening with Hockey Canada are absolutely vital to changing the culture of this sport. We cannot affect change without having these difficult conversations. Please conduct yourselves with all respect, tact, and understanding in the wake of the news surrounding Canada's WJC teams, the Daryl Katz case, or any other future cases that fall under similar categories.

Be mindful of the trauma that this news can dredge up and how others may react to updates in each individual case. Links are provided in the stickied post should you or someone you know need the assistance. Reaching out is not a sign of weakness.


Thanks...this needed to be said. Speculation is a major problem in the world as a whole right now and people need to realize that it isn't solving anything.
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 3:15 p.m.
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I don’t believe this will be a take that will age well

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He is a stud IMO


Oh no question he’s a stud but you saying his contract is among the best in the league is ridiculous.

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I don’t think anyone is saying Jack Hughes is a top 5 centre. I personally don’t even think he ever will be, although I think he’ll probably be top 10 (McDavid, Matthews, Bedard, Draisaitl, MacKinnon, Crosby, Point, Aho, etc. will keep him out of the top 5 both now and in the future, he might pass some of those, but probably not 5). But he has already surpassed the expectations of his contract imo (elite production AND underlying numbers), and will likely outperform it for its entire duration. He’ll be a great 1C for a long time. This 8mil is the new 6.3mil that MacKinnon signed. Obviously I think MacKinnon is better than I expect Hughes to ever be, but it’ll be looked at similarly a few years down the line.


I agree with this for the most part. I think he has a lot of potential but people talk about him like he’s going to be a top 5 centre someday, which I don’t think he’s very likely to be.
Jul. 22, 2022 at 3:16 p.m.
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Someone ban this guy


Lol. Loui Eriksson sucks too.
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 3:17 p.m.
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Lol. Loui Eriksson sucks too.


I will not stand for this slander of our great Loui
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 3:18 p.m.
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I will not stand for this slander of our great Loui


And Ross Johnston is the leagues best player.
Jul. 22, 2022 at 3:40 p.m.
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All these Calgary fans on Twitter are hilarious, throwing out teams like Vegas and Dallas and even Nashville and some others to make believe there's a monster battle royale bidding war going on for Tkachuk, so they have all the leverage! Muh huh. Sure. Jersey is a real serious threat if he'd go there. IF. And don't give us no cousin crap. The rest I really can't be bothered to worry about. I don't try not to worry about them, it just happens like breathing.

The only team that really scares the crap out of me if they get involved is Detroit. Detroit scares the ever loving **** out of me right now.

Go. Away. Stephen Gregory Yzzzzzer. Shoo!
Jul. 22, 2022 at 3:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Lol. Loui Eriksson sucks too.


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Jul. 22, 2022 at 3:49 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
All these Calgary fans on Twitter are hilarious, throwing out teams like Vegas and Dallas and even Nashville and some others to make believe there's a monster battle royale bidding war going on for Tkachuk, so they have all the leverage! Muh huh. Sure. Jersey is a real serious threat if he'd go there. IF. And don't give us no cousin crap. The rest I really can't be bothered to worry about. I don't try not to worry about them, it just happens like breathing.

The only team that really scares the crap out of me if they get involved is Detroit. Detroit scares the ever loving **** out of me right now.

Go. Away. Stephen Gregory Yzzzzzer. Shoo!


Detroit has nothing to offer. Raymond, Seider, Edvinsson aren’t going anywhere . Vrana is injury prone and a bit older . Bertuzzi is a rental. Larkin isn’t going anywhere.

I’m sorry but Zadina, Veleno, Johansson and 1st doesn’t get him imo
Jul. 22, 2022 at 3:57 p.m.
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Most Beat writers/bloggers would be better off not acting like they have sources.
Jul. 22, 2022 at 3:57 p.m.
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Detroit has nothing to offer. Raymond, Seider, Edvinsson aren’t going anywhere . Vrana is injury prone and a bit older . Bertuzzi is a rental. Larkin isn’t going anywhere.

I’m sorry but Zadina, Veleno, Johansson and 1st doesn’t get him imo


I can see Wallinder in there
Jul. 22, 2022 at 3:57 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Detroit has nothing to offer. Raymond, Seider, Edvinsson aren’t going anywhere . Vrana is injury prone and a bit older . Bertuzzi is a rental. Larkin isn’t going anywhere.

I’m sorry but Zadina, Veleno, Johansson and 1st doesn’t get him imo


I feel if Det was to do it the trade would look like this

If Covid restrictions are lifted for border travel

Bertuzzi with extension + Veleno + Wallinder and a 1st top 5 protected for Chucky and a 6th or something (seems guy always goes with a low pick the other way)

Get a young C a 30 goal scoring wing and a nice LD prospect who is playing against men in the SHL at 19 years old but if they need a bit more add Zadina. Also knowing Det with the 10 goals allowed goaltending that pick gonna be lower than 5 but higher than 15 wink

If not if Det cant work on a deal with Larkin maybe something around those 2
Jul. 22, 2022 at 4:05 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Detroit has nothing to offer. Raymond, Seider, Edvinsson aren’t going anywhere . Vrana is injury prone and a bit older . Bertuzzi is a rental. Larkin isn’t going anywhere.

I’m sorry but Zadina, Veleno, Johansson and 1st doesn’t get him imo


I said IF he gets involved. And if he does, he probably doesn't hesitate to include someone on that list not named Seider. And they have other valuable young chips beyond them. They'd be terrifying to have involved.
Jul. 22, 2022 at 4:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Db1899
Most Beat writers/bloggers would be better off not acting like they have sources.


It’s so funny how James Nichols has become a meme in the islanders community
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 4:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Oh no question he’s a stud but you saying his contract is among the best in the league is ridiculous.
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i think his contract is up there. who do you think has the best contract?
Jul. 22, 2022 at 4:21 p.m.
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i think his contract is up there. who do you think has the best contract?


Nathan MacKinnon 6.3 million dollars. Was fair value when he signed but he’s a top 5 player in the NHL now
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 4:22 p.m.
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Nathan MacKinnon 6.3 million dollars. Was fair value when he signed but he’s a top 5 player in the NHL now


yea that was great while it lasted but theres only 1 year left on that.
Jul. 22, 2022 at 4:23 p.m.
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yea that was great while it lasted but theres only 1 year left on that.


Draisaitl at 8.5 is also very very good
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 4:32 p.m.
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😂 steal of the century

CLB fans would want the world for him
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 4:33 p.m.
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😂 steal of the century

CLB fans would want the world for him


Holy F*CK
That's a steal
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 4:33 p.m.
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He doesn’t have to be good defensively , he just has to not be the worst defensive forward in the NHL. His shot is the only elite thing about his game, he’s a liability if he’s not scoring


Well CBJ’s paying him that for the same reason Ovi’s paid 9.5, they can score goals at will, Laine will most likely always be paired with more capable defensively linemates due to his defensive decencies but that shouldn’t take away from his amazing offensive skills
Jul. 22, 2022 at 4:35 p.m.
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seattle clearing space for someone?
Jul. 22, 2022 at 4:35 p.m.
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😂 steal of the century

CLB fans would want the world for him


30 goals, 60 points great defensively, amazing contract
Nah just give him away
And let's get Gudbranson for 4 mil

IS KEKALAINEN NUTS?!?!?!?
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 4:35 p.m.
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Draisaitl at 8.5 is also very very good


I’m pretty sure that was an overpay at the time that he signed I think.
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