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2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #9 - The Demise (Revival?) of Calgary

Jul. 23 at 3:19 p.m.
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Pretty crazy


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Jul. 23 at 3:48 p.m.
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Matthew Tkachuk was the first player in NHL history to be signed and traded


What if Calgary pulled a sneaky and signed Tkachuk making him think he was gonna be traded, but then just straight not trade him?
Jul. 23 at 3:55 p.m.
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Matthew Tkachuk was the first player in NHL history to be signed and traded


Technically no as Dany Heatley was the first guy as remember he signed his extension than was traded the same day I believe 20 minutes later or something as they were still working out the kinks to the deal. I believe it was for Hossa
Jul. 23 at 4:01 p.m.
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Underrated tweet
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Jul. 23 at 4:02 p.m.
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Underrated tweet


The best Matt Calgary ever had. Matt Stajan was pretty decent as well.
Jul. 23 at 4:07 p.m.
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The Tkachuk trade has made me physically hurt. I am absolutely floored at how terrible the trade is for Florida.
Jul. 23 at 4:10 p.m.
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I would not be surprised if Florida signs Sonny Milano for close to league minimum
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Jul. 23 at 4:15 p.m.
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I would not be surprised if Florida signs Sonny Milano for close to league minimum


Florida got no cap space even with Duclair on LTIR they are over the cap

Basically they gonna have to try and dump Hornqivst or trade someone else out before even thinking of signing another guy
Jul. 23 at 4:22 p.m.
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The Tkachuk trade has made me physically hurt. I am absolutely floored at how terrible the trade is for Florida.


Terrible for Florida? Really? It favours Calgary for sure, as they got arguably the better player AND major adds. But taking contracts/term into account, Florida comes out pretty good. Anytime you get a 100 power forward for 8 years in his prime with a reasonable AAV you are not a loser. It’s just that Calgary won more. And Florida is getting the safer package too: Calgary could end up with only Swchwind and a 2025 first in a years time. Personally I like it a lot for both teams.
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Jul. 23 at 4:22 p.m.
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Florida got no cap space even with Duclair on LTIR they are over the cap

Basically they gonna have to try and dump Hornqivst or trade someone else out before even thinking of signing another guy


They can put someone like Ryan lomberg on waivers if they sign Milano to a 800-900 k deal. Florida can sell Milano with no state income tax and a top 6 role
Jul. 23 at 4:36 p.m.
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Edited Jul. 23 at 10:11 p.m. by BeterChiarelli
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The longer they stay unsigned... the more I think the players around that age had something to do with the WJC situation going on.


I feel it has more to do with Kadri stalling the market. As everyone is waiting for him before signing the remaining depth guys
Jul. 23 at 4:43 p.m.
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Flames tweeting out “Matt is Back” for Matthew Phillips

Lmao
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Jul. 23 at 5:57 p.m.
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The Tkachuk trade has made me physically hurt. I am absolutely floored at how terrible the trade is for Florida.


I don't think it is that terrible.

On a vacuum the amount they paid is massive, but the assets they gave up were peaked pending UFAs with terribly expensive contracts coming, or irrelevant assets for a contender.

If you ask me now do I take a 29 year old Huberdeau and 28 year old Weegar for one year over 24 year old Matthew Tkachuk at same cap total the answer is obviously yes. But if you ask me the same question in 3 years time, would I take a 32 year old Huberdeau and 31 year old Weegar with 6 years left in their contracts at total cap of close to $20M dollars, or a 27-year old Tkachuk at half the price, I'm 100% taking Tkachuk.

And this is assuming CGY actually is able to keep those guys, which is far from certain.
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Jul. 23 at 6:10 p.m.
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I don't think it is that terrible.

On a vacuum the amount they paid is massive, but the assets they gave up were peaked pending UFAs with terribly expensive contracts coming, or irrelevant assets for a contender.

If you ask me now do I take a 29 year old Huberdeau and 28 year old Weegar for one year over 24 year old Matthew Tkachuk at same cap total the answer is obviously yes. But if you ask me the same question in 3 years time, would I take a 32 year old Huberdeau and 31 year old Weegar with 6 years left in their contracts at total cap of close to $20M dollars, or a 27-year old Tkachuk at half the price, I'm 100% taking Tkachuk.

And this is assuming CGY actually is able to keep those guys, which is far from certain.


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Terrible for Florida? Really? It favours Calgary for sure, as they got arguably the better player AND major adds. But taking contracts/term into account, Florida comes out pretty good. Anytime you get a 100 power forward for 8 years in his prime with a reasonable AAV you are not a loser. It’s just that Calgary won more. And Florida is getting the safer package too: Calgary could end up with only Swchwind and a 2025 first in a years time. Personally I like it a lot for both teams.


Yeah I love the trade.

It’s something that the NHL could use more of.
I know everyone’s saying it he “NBA BLOCKBUSTER” of the NHL and it is. It’s also like most are saying; one of the biggest trades in decades.

But I think while many people are screaming too loudly on one camp:

“Florida overpay; they could lose 3rd/ WC to Ottawa”
And what not

I do think Florida really is making a smart, high value move. Huberdeaus attitude/ future seemed in question as many think he’s ran out of time in Florida and also; do I really think Huberdeau’s aka Erik Karlsson 2.0, contract is going to tasteful? Weegar is again; looking for the pay day.

I respect both players going for the bag so let’s see them cash in; but I think Huberdeau was done in Florida and Florida was done with him.
I do like Weegar depending on the contract. I think he may be reasonable to keep as Calgary. If Calgary keeps both I can’t really blame them either - I don’t think many other teams could have handled two different but hazy paths better. Calgary was literally imploding online and Brad even said it; it’s a **** hand they got dealt. But Treliving - made a bold and interesting call that deserves more respect to be put on his name like I’ve been harping. And Zito; a real risk but different situation, is betting on Tkachuk and that’s a decent deal they inked. And betting on Tkachuk is just as good, if not better, than others like Bratt, Kyrou, Meier, Gaudreau.
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Jul. 23 at 6:37 p.m.
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Yeah I love the trade.

It’s something that the NHL could use more of.
I know everyone’s saying it he “NBA BLOCKBUSTER” of the NHL and it is. It’s also like most are saying; one of the biggest trades in decades.

But I think while many people are screaming too loudly on one camp:

“Florida overpay; they could lose 3rd/ WC to Ottawa”
And what not

I do think Florida really is making a smart, high value move. Huberdeaus attitude/ future seemed in question as many think he’s ran out of time in Florida and also; do I really think Huberdeau’s aka Erik Karlsson 2.0, contract is going to tasteful? Weegar is again; looking for the pay day.

I respect both players going for the bag so let’s see them cash in; but I think Huberdeau was done in Florida and Florida was done with him.
I do like Weegar depending on the contract. I think he may be reasonable to keep as Calgary. If Calgary keeps both I can’t really blame them either - I don’t think many other teams could have handled two different but hazy paths better. Calgary was literally imploding online and Brad even said it; it’s a **** hand they got dealt. But Treliving - made a bold and interesting call that deserves more respect to be put on his name like I’ve been harping. And Zito; a real risk but different situation, is betting on Tkachuk and that’s a decent deal they inked. And betting on Tkachuk is just as good, if not better, than others like Bratt, Kyrou, Meier, Gaudreau.


“Who cares “


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Jul. 23 at 6:59 p.m.
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??????
Jul. 23 at 7:04 p.m.
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??????

PLD for Suzuki and Caufield scream
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Jul. 23 at 7:06 p.m.
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PLD for Suzuki and Caufield scream


Subban back?
Jul. 23 at 7:20 p.m.
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??????


Josh Anderson for Auston Matthews
Jul. 23 at 7:29 p.m.
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Subban back?


Honestly I could see it
Jul. 23 at 7:30 p.m.
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??????


So are they ever gonna f*cking tell us?
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Jul. 23 at 7:34 p.m.
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So are they ever gonna f*cking tell us?

No lol they're waiting for cell service to return to the area where LeBrun's cottage is so that one of the insiders gathered there can tweet it out
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Jul. 23 at 8:29 p.m.
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So are they ever gonna f*cking tell us?


It's been almost two hours lmao
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Jul. 23 at 8:31 p.m.
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So are they ever gonna f*cking tell us?


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It's been almost two hours lmao






No way that was just Mike Matheson 💀💀💀
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Jul. 23 at 9:27 p.m.
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No way that was just Mike Matheson 💀💀💀


What if this is all just a giant bait and tomorrow Subban signs

Probs not but hey I have seen teams troll like this then sign someone the next day
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