Calgary obviously doesn't do that, neither does tavares

Lindholm has been as good if not better than Tavres for a couple years now and is doing it for less than half of Tavares salary. Marner and Tkachuk could be a wash at this point. This package severely favours the Leafs.

Terrible for CGY

Just saw it suggested on Twitter.

Calgary gets the best player in the deal by quite a margin but takes on Tavares contract in the process. Obviously Tavares may not waive.

but its not a wash, because marner is better

Marner - Tkachuk isn't even close to a wash. Very far from it.

Tkachuk is the best player in the deal.

Lindholm at 4.8 million is miles better than Tavares at 11 million and is 4 years younger.

Marner also has much less term than tkachuk would be getting.

Tkachuk is also 2 years younger and making a million less a year here than marner

It's bad

Tkachuk better than Marner? What planet are you on? It's not even close.

Lindholm miles better? Lindholm has 183 pts in 203 games in his last 3 seasons.

Tavares has 186 in 192 games. I understand being younger and cheaper but you can't argue miles better with stats like that. I would accept a wash at best on those two.

https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/frozenpool_compare.php?players%5B%5D=4169&players%5B%5D=4276&period=2021-2022%3AR%3A99

Really interesting comparison of this season and the last three showing that Marner and Tkachuk are nearly identical, Tkachuk is doing similar things in less ice time and not playing with the second best player in the world. Tkachuk even had better extended numbers last season compared to the analytical darling that is Marner.

please explain how tkachuk is better than marner

Guy above my quoted post summed it up.

I also added that he's 2 years younger and less expensive than marner.

Funny that everyone saying marner is better is a Leafs fan. I'm not a fan of either team

marner has a better ppg is better defensively and is an unreal penalty killer, now take a look at their playoff numbers, tkachuk is "gritty" so people think he is a playoff god but decide not to look at the numbers, marner is better, i dont think its a debate

theyre the same age lmfao so youre wrong and tkachuk will want marner money, do you try and do research? age one is terrible, quick go back and edit it so you dont look bad

MUCH younger and MUCH cheaper and better.

If Calgary is blowing up their team why would they get more expensive, older and worse? It's completely nonsensical

Lol completely disregards any stats........"MUCH better"

Makes sense

You only use points. And even then you don't win the argument

you just tried to say tkachuk is 2 years younger than marner, you cant be calling anyone out

Not looking to win the "argument" on a scenario that I just reposted from Twitter for discussion but you enjoy your little soapbox lol

The AGM has him a million dollars less. I don't think he will sign for marner money, and if he does I doubt it will be for shorter term like marner did.

I am comfortable stating that tkachuk is a better player than marner, whether I made an age error or not. I mistakenly thought marner was in 2014 draft for a minute.

I also think tkachuks stats improve in Toronto and marners would lower in Calgary.

So as shown in the direct comparison Tkachuk has a better points/60 than Marner over the last three seasons, Tkachuk is doing the same if not more in terms of production with three and a half minutes less in ice time per game than Marner. Tkachuk had better possession metrics last season and nearly identical relative metrics. Penalty killing and playoffs sure, Marner has been better and Tkachuk doesn't kill penalties, sounds like Marner should stay in Toronto then and this post unnecessary.

I guess I should die because I forgot marners draft year for 2 minutes. You really got me. It's easy to spot someone with no argument when they hyper focus on a minor unimportant error

but the AGM isnt what hes signing for, he turned down 11m a year the diffeernce between their contracts will be 500k which is nothing, but you used tkachuk being 2 years younger as a reason why hes better, you ve yet to give an actual reason as to why tkachuks better, marner is a better defender, penalty killer, has better production in both the regular season and the playoffs, tkachuk is grittier big whoop

youve yet to make an actual valid argument lmao, youre one argument is wrong and your other is hypothetical ahaha

Lmao

Sir your bias is showing.

Calgary would absolutely consider this trade. You guys need to remember that like literally every other offer Calgary is going to get for Tkachuk -- who just requested a trade, mind you -- will be all futures.

If Calgary wants to stay competitive, this is one of, if not the only serious offer they will receive. Obviously its not a slam dunk for them as they will get older and take on a lot of cap. But its an offer they would absolutely take a long look at.

IMO the real issue is getting Tavares to waive his NMC. That's a lot to ask for mr. leafs pyjamas. Maybe another first round implosion and I could see it