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Flames still want to win

Created by: McJoe7
Team: 2022-23 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 22, 2022
Published: Jul. 22, 2022
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I personally think the Flames should blow it up. They have a few really good prospects already, flipping Tkachuk for futures and then turning around and trading Markstrom, maybe Tanev, seeing if anyone wants to take a crack at Monahan would all be things I did.

But sounds like they don't want to do that, so I'm trying to keep them competitive and see what this looks like!
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$6,500,000
2$1,300,000
2$3,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$7,800,000
Trades
1.
CGY
STL
  1. Tkachuk, Matthew [RFA Rights]
2.
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$70,612,500$0$200,000$11,887,500

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$2,800,000$2,800,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$2,625,000$2,625,000
LW
UFA - 2
$7,800,000$7,800,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 2
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
C
UFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000 (Performance Bonus$200,000$200K)
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,550,000$1,550,000
LD
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$750,000$750,000
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$6,375,000$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Jul. 22, 2022 at 12:22 p.m.
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Respectfully the Wings decline
Jul. 22, 2022 at 12:23 p.m.
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Calgary isn't in a good spot. That Zadorov signing combined with the number Kylington will get and Monahan's money really limits what they can do. That's probably not enough to keep Kadri away from Colorado and there's so many damn high numbers. I'm also cheating because I have Monahan on LTIR but he'll probably be able to play at some point. I think you could deal him with half retention but why would you and you can buy him out with like a 2.5 cap hit but again, why do that?

I think people won't like my Krug for Vrana trade but I thought it was clever. Vrana probably has slightly higher value so I threw in Coronato and Wallinder to give the Flames back a young dman and Wings back a young forward. Maybe Coronato is too good and maybe that's Zary but still, thought it was clever lol.
Jul. 22, 2022 at 12:25 p.m.
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Unfortunately the Flames will never blow it up as they should. They will continue to pick between 15 and 22 every year and either sneak in to get whooped in the first round or just miss the playoffs. They sure have the pieces to rebuild this season with Backlund, Toffoli, Tanev, Dube but you'll just never see it unfortunately.

If they could move out pieces to pick 3 or 4 times in the top 50 this upcoming draft would be best case scenario in my mind.
Jul. 22, 2022 at 12:41 p.m.
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Calgary isn't in a good spot. That Zadorov signing combined with the number Kylington will get and Monahan's money really limits what they can do. That's probably not enough to keep Kadri away from Colorado and there's so many damn high numbers. I'm also cheating because I have Monahan on LTIR but he'll probably be able to play at some point. I think you could deal him with half retention but why would you and you can buy him out with like a 2.5 cap hit but again, why do that?

I think people won't like my Krug for Vrana trade but I thought it was clever. Vrana probably has slightly higher value so I threw in Coronato and Wallinder to give the Flames back a young dman and Wings back a young forward. Maybe Coronato is too good and maybe that's Zary but still, thought it was clever lol.


Unfortunately that Detroit trade doesn't work for Detroit. That Krug contract won't age well and we have a log jam of LHD now.
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 12:55 p.m.
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Wow, funny how Krug is a cap dump when the Blues are trading him, but suddenly becomes worth a ton when Calgary trades him. Maybe the Blues should just send him over for Vrana and cut you out completely, no?
Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:02 p.m.
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Wow, funny how Krug is a cap dump when the Blues are trading him, but suddenly becomes worth a ton when Calgary trades him. Maybe the Blues should just send him over for Vrana and cut you out completely, no?


I wasn't treating Krug as a cap dump, I was treating it as a 3-way trade. Tkachuk is a total unicorn and I hope for Calgary's sake, they're able to create a bidding war of sorts so the Blues don't end up getting him for scraps lol. Trade still make the Blues way better in my opinion. Matthew Tkachuk had 104 points last season as a true 1st line power forward. He's a star. Kyrou is really good too but he isn't in the same league as Tkachuk.

That Detroit trade isn't great. I thought the Coronado for Wallinder bump might make up the difference but if the Wings don't need a PP QB defenceman like I think they do then its a non-starter.
Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:03 p.m.
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Wow, funny how Krug is a cap dump when the Blues are trading him, but suddenly becomes worth a ton when Calgary trades him. Maybe the Blues should just send him over for Vrana and cut you out completely, no?


Got to love those he's a cap dump to aquire but we'll get s really good player flipping him.
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:13 p.m.
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I wasn't treating Krug as a cap dump, I was treating it as a 3-way trade. Tkachuk is a total unicorn and I hope for Calgary's sake, they're able to create a bidding war of sorts so the Blues don't end up getting him for scraps lol. Trade still make the Blues way better in my opinion. Matthew Tkachuk had 104 points last season as a true 1st line power forward. He's a star. Kyrou is really good too but he isn't in the same league as Tkachuk.

That Detroit trade isn't great. I thought the Coronado for Wallinder bump might make up the difference but if the Wings don't need a PP QB defenceman like I think they do then its a non-starter.


Matty is not that much more valuable than Kyrou, especially right now as things stand situationally. And IF the Blues move out salary separately beforehand, they will be damn near adjacent to royally screwed.
Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:21 p.m.
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Matty is not that much more valuable than Kyrou, especially right now as things stand situationally. And IF the Blues move out salary separately beforehand, they will be damn near adjacent to royally screwed.


I respectfully disagree. Tkachuk is a dying breed. As a Leaf fan, I'd happily trade Nylander in the Kyrou spot of that trade to get Tkachuk. Tkachuk is a legit power forward and there aren't a lot of those around and if he can continue to be a 40 goal scorer and point per game guy, hes a top 10 player in this league.
Jul. 22, 2022 at 3:18 p.m.
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I respectfully disagree. Tkachuk is a dying breed. As a Leaf fan, I'd happily trade Nylander in the Kyrou spot of that trade to get Tkachuk. Tkachuk is a legit power forward and there aren't a lot of those around and if he can continue to be a 40 goal scorer and point per game guy, hes a top 10 player in this league.


Nylander isn't as valuable as Kyrou anymore. And Kyrou looks every bit the part of a PPG winger (though his best seasons will probably be, say 15 points higher) who will safely, swiftly skate the puck out of your zone and into the other zone all night long. And then he will dizzy defenses until they don't know their own names. Those types ain't exactly growing on trees, either. Some folks out here wanting Kyrou + the world. They should get used to disappointment now. It ain't goin' down like that. Can they get Kyrou? Sure. Can they get Kyrou and a nice wide selection of other stuff with great value? Not a chance.
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 3:40 p.m.
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That Detroit trade is down right insulting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jul. 22, 2022 at 8:59 p.m.
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Respectfully the Wings decline


Disrespectfully, the Wings decline.
 
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