Hoping to tank and get a superstar in 2023 draft

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Created by: OldHabsFan61

Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 22, 2022

Published: Jul. 22, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Even if we miss a top 3 pick this draft is still loaded with potential. If we are 4th I’d take Dvorsky and pair him with Slafkovsky.

Line 1: The Goal Line

Line 2: The BIG Line

Line 3: The SlovakKid Line

4th OA- Dalibor Dvorsky C

FLA 1st- Quentin Musty LW

NYR 1st- Maxim Stebak RHD

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST	YEARS	CAP HIT
Mailloux, Logan	3	$950,000
Trudeau, William	3	$855,000
Smilanic, Ty	3	$875,000
Farrell, Sean	3	$875,000
Beck, Owen	3	$925,000
Struble, Jayden	3	$925,000
Tuch, Luke	3	$900,000

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Dach, Kirby	2	$1,750,000
Caufield, Cole	5	$4,750,000
Harris, Jordan	4	$1,550,000
Primeau, Cayden	2	$950,000
Ylönen, Jesse	3	$950,000
Pezzetta, Michael	2	$950,000
Dubois, Pierre-Luc	8	$7,750,000
Hillis, Cameron	3	$950,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Merkley, Nick	2	$800,000
Bowey, Madison	2	$775,000
Fucale, Zachary	2	$775,000
Subban, Malcolm	1	$775,000
Lafontaine, Jack	3	$775,000

CREATED	YEARS	CAP HIT
Dvorsky, Dalibor	3	$950,000
Musty, Quentin	3	$950,000
Strbak, Maxim	3	$950,000

Trades

MTL

2023 2nd round pick (WSH)

Additional Details:

Dadonov traded at 22-23 deadline 50% retained

WSH

MTL

2023 2nd round pick (EDM)

Additional Details:

Jake Allen traded at deadline 50% retention

EDM

MTL

2023 2nd round pick (CAR)

CAR

Edmundson, Joel ($1,750,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Traded at or before the draft

MTL

2023 1st round pick (NYR)

NYR

2023 2nd round pick (MTL)
2023 4th round pick (MTL)
2024 6th round pick (MTL)

Additional Details:

Trade up at the draft

MTL

Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]

WPG

Dvorak, Christian
Kapanen, Oliver [Reserve List]
Pitlick, Rem
2024 3rd round pick (MTL)

Additional Details:

2023 summer trade

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Joel Edmundson: $1,750,000 (200%)

Buried

Mike Hoffman: $3,350,000 ($4,500,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$76,922,499	$1,170,000	$4,195,000	$5,577,501

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Caufield, Cole $4,750,000$4,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 7	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4	Dubois, Pierre-Luc $7,750,000$7,750,000 C UFA - 8	Dach, Kirby $1,750,000$1,750,000 C, RW RFA - 3
Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 2	Dvorsky, Dalibor $950,000$950,000	Mesar, Filip $918,333$918,333 RW, C RFA - 3
Ylönen, Jesse $950,000$950,000 RW, LW RFA - 1	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 2	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($275,000$275K) RD RFA - 1	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 3
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 1
Harris, Jordan $1,550,000$1,550,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Primeau, Cayden $950,000$950,000 G RFA - 2
Mailloux, Logan $950,000$950,000 RD RFA - 3
Pezzetta, Michael $950,000$950,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Jul. 22, 2022 at 1:41 p.m.

Ross_Johnston

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Habs are getting a heck of a lot more than that for half retained Edmundson with term.

I am holding out hope for Bedard or Fantili

Jul. 22, 2022 at 1:49 p.m.

KentMcNally

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I think the Habs will have to pay Caufield and Dubois a bit more than what you are paying them, especially Caufield.

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Jul. 22, 2022 at 1:49 p.m.

Chazz44

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Better go for Bedard, only hope you habs fans have left

Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:02 p.m.

Cheddamonkey37

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Didn’t think the mtl deals for Dubois could get worse.. congrats I guess

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Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:07 p.m.

Windjammer

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Once again, please explain Chevy's motivation to take less than he gets for PLD as a rental in 2 years.

Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:08 p.m.

CD282

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Why would Edmonton want Allen?

Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:13 p.m.

OldHabsFan61

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Quoting: KentMcNally

I think the Habs will have to pay Caufield and Dubois a bit more than what you are paying them, especially Caufield.

I wouldn’t pay Dubois more than 8. If he wants to play in Montreal so bad take less or go elsewhere

Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:30 p.m.

OldHabsFan61

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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37

Didn’t think the mtl deals for Dubois could get worse.. congrats I guess

Not even remotely close to the worst propsal for him. It’s very realistic. Regardless I couldn’t care less if he ever puts on a Habs sweater. He wants to be here which is nice but he’s not needed. He’s a luxury piece

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Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:31 p.m.

OldHabsFan61

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Quoting: CD282

Why would Edmonton want Allen?

Because a team that wants to win a cup needs a backup goalie should the starter go down. Ask Pittsburgh

Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:32 p.m.

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OldHabsFan61

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Quoting: Windjammer

Once again, please explain Chevy's motivation to take less than he gets for PLD as a rental in 2 years.

You should trade him elsewhere. This is the kind of deal I’d make. If it isn’t enough then fine keep him. He is not needed here, he’s a luxury

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Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:42 p.m.

#11

CD282

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Quoting: OldHabsFan61

Because a team that wants to win a cup needs a backup goalie should the starter go down. Ask Pittsburgh

They have Stuart Skinner. They don't need Allen.

Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:48 p.m.

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OldHabsFan61

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Quoting: CD282

They have Stuart Skinner. They don't need Allen.

So if Campbell goes down before or during the playoffs you really think that he is winning you a Stanley Cup? If so I have ocean front property in Manitoba for sale

Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:56 p.m.

#13

CD282

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Quoting: OldHabsFan61

So if Campbell goes down before or during the playoffs you really think that he is winning you a Stanley Cup? If so I have ocean front property in Manitoba for sale

No thanks, Churchill is a little cold for my liking!

Campbell isn't injured. And I'd put more faith in Skinner than Allen anyhow, he always seems to raise his game at important moments.

Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:56 p.m.

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InRodWeTrust

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Pass on Edmundson.

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Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:58 p.m.

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I like the idea of getting more first rounders, I just don't know the price à 26th to 30th OA would be. Maybe Edmonston retained ain't enough.

Jul. 22, 2022 at 2:59 p.m.

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Quoting: InRodWeTrust

Pass on Edmundson.

It doesn't have to be to Carolina. Any serious playoff team would want to improve the D

Jul. 22, 2022 at 3:17 p.m.

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InRodWeTrust

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Quoting: Nake_qc

It doesn't have to be to Carolina. Any serious playoff team would want to improve the D

I know. Just speaking to the team that was named. All good.

Jul. 22, 2022 at 3:20 p.m.

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OldHabsFan61

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Quoting: CD282

No thanks, Churchill is a little cold for my liking!

Campbell isn't injured. And I'd put more faith in Skinner than Allen anyhow, he always seems to raise his game at important moments.

Have you ever seen a trade deadline before? Do you know what teams who are trying to win a cup do at the deadline? Or are you still in rebuild mode because the winning is too new still?

Jul. 22, 2022 at 3:33 p.m.

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Quoting: OldHabsFan61

Have you ever seen a trade deadline before? Do you know what teams who are trying to win a cup do at the deadline? Or are you still in rebuild mode because the winning is too new still?

Remind me: how many backups were moved at the deadline for a 2nd round pick?

Jul. 22, 2022 at 3:51 p.m.

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OldHabsFan61

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Quoting: CD282

Remind me: how many backups were moved at the deadline for a 2nd round pick?

MAF got a 2nd from MN without retention

Jul. 22, 2022 at 4:12 p.m.

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CD282

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Quoting: OldHabsFan61

MAF got a 2nd from MN without retention

Not a backup. And he's won Cups before. If he got a 2nd then Allen's only worth a 4th. And only one of 16 teams added a goalie. It's not a "thing" that contenders do.

And you're wrong about the retention. Chicago retained 50% on MAF.

Jul. 22, 2022 at 4:18 p.m.

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OldHabsFan61

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Quoting: CD282

Jake Allen isn’t a backup either so you’re simply wrong. He’s a 1B. He might as well be Jacques Plante compared to Skinner

Jul. 22, 2022 at 4:21 p.m.

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CD282

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Quoting: OldHabsFan61

Jake Allen isn’t a backup either so you’re simply wrong. He’s a 1B. He might as well be Jacques Plante compared to Skinner

Allen .905
Skinner .913
Campbell .914

LOL. Edmonton isn't interested in taking out your garbage. Goodbye.

Jul. 22, 2022 at 4:27 p.m.

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OldHabsFan61

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Quoting: CD282

Allen .905
Skinner .913
Campbell .914

LOL. Edmonton isn't interested in taking out your garbage. Goodbye.

Fine by me. Good thing Holland is smart though because you have no idea what you’re talking about

Jul. 22, 2022 at 4:56 p.m.

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Quoting: OldHabsFan61

Nothing realistic about a 3C and couple scrap pieces sorry pal

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