Why would Calgary make either of these trades?

I dislike both of them

@donatello00

I think they're selling high on Kylington, with the Weegar deal Kylington would play bottom pairing minutes where I don't think he fits at all, he's also a year away from UFA coming off his best season. I don't think it's repeatable with Zadorov as a partner.

The Flames have had Dube like prospects for years, they have Pelletier in the system, Zary and good sized left shot prospect, Kerins, Petersson, I like Dube but if you can bring in the experience and production of Killorn for a season to try get them over the edge I do it. It also provides the Flames with cap space next off season to look at extending the new guys and in a great FA class.

Kyli was a second round pick originally and he has proven to be a top 4 D so not sure how this is selling high on him!

He was not good without Tanev, he's taken 7 pro seasons to put together a respectable one, he will not be playing in the top 4 this season if it's Hanifin, Tanev, Andersson, Weegar, he won't put up close to the same season and then his value next off season is no where near as high as it is right now. If the Flames look to hold onto him long term it will need to be a 3M+ contract this off season to have him play on the bottom pairing.
There are still a ton of warts to his game, he can be a turnover machine that was well covered my Tanev and can often skate himself well out of position. Getting a couple picks back for a guy with 168 NHL games and one decent season is a good enough return.

I think the 2nd and 4th need to be swapped on the tampa deal.

I don't think so no, Killorn plays both sides of special teams, wildly out produces Dube per game, provides more offensive upside on a roster than lost a lot of production, off the books after this season if the Flames look to spend big on Huberdeau and Weegar with a really strong FA class next season.

Dube has zero trade value right now

I mean we all know that's not true. In the eyes of the public sure, which doesn't matter to GM's or ownership as everyone has learned from the nonsense of signing and re signing Evander Kane, NHL teams work with their own discipline and look to put a product on the ice that wins games.

I think you are underselling his value - some players take time to develop. A full season of top 4 play should be proof enough no matter who his D partner is.

I am not saying he shouldn’t be traded considering how many D we now have - I am simply saying how is selling him for a late second /third considered selling him high when he was a second round pick to begin with.

I would at least want a similar skilled / proven winger in return rather than recouping a second and hoping it pans out again in 3-5 years!

Fair enough, I have never been a huge Kylington fan and that bias likely plays into my thought process.

I think any pick you get in the second round from the Islanders is higher than where Kylington was picked second last in the second round. I think picks are a good return in this case, I would also use him as a package with Lucic or Monahan if the Flames were to look at Kadri.

I get your point, I think we just see the player differently!

I understand your POV here but until this whole thing comes to conclusion i dont see him being a tradeable asset.

In a perfect world you should be absolutely right and I would hope you are. My faith in professional sports leagues to do the right thing is about as low as it gets right now.

Can't disagree with any of that.

Just feels like cash is king right now and alot of these types of forwards aren't holding full value.
This is based on patches and bjorkstrand.