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Team: 2022-23 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 26, 2022
Published: Jul. 26, 2022
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Jul. 26, 2022 at 11:08 a.m.
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I like the trade, ONLY if Weegar can be resigned, but on the other hand, Devils have the cap space and the need for a point getter like Bratt, so that trade has a slim chance of going through in my opinion
Jul. 26, 2022 at 11:10 a.m.
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You're gonna get roasted by Devils fans for this
Jul. 26, 2022 at 11:11 a.m.
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Now don't get me wrong, I love Noah Hanifin, probably more than the next guy but he is a strangely good trade piece if Weegar extends. I just don't know if I would be ready to part with a 25 year old D man with over 500 games that's really finding his stride, people forget D men seem to peak later in their careers, Hanifin could really just be entering his prime years. That top line is aggressive though..
Jul. 26, 2022 at 11:12 a.m.
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Unpopular opinion, I think that NJ would prefer Kylington. His age puts him at the right trajectory to be in his prime when some of their older players are coming off the books. Top end potential.

NJ is a prime trade partner for Calgary.
Jul. 26, 2022 at 11:30 a.m.
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Quoting: Dr_Invictus
Unpopular opinion, I think that NJ would prefer Kylington. His age puts him at the right trajectory to be in his prime when some of their older players are coming off the books. Top end potential.

NJ is a prime trade partner for Calgary.


Devils don't need help in the LHD department... they need a top-6 winger. Trading Bratt for a defenseman doesn't make sense. Not a prime trade partner.
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Jul. 26, 2022 at 11:41 a.m.
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I like the trade, ONLY if Weegar can be resigned, but on the other hand, Devils have the cap space and the need for a point getter like Bratt, so that trade has a slim chance of going through in my opinion


Was basing it on the fact Bratt is still unsigned and contract talks seem to not be going great.
Jul. 26, 2022 at 11:43 a.m.
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Now don't get me wrong, I love Noah Hanifin, probably more than the next guy but he is a strangely good trade piece if Weegar extends. I just don't know if I would be ready to part with a 25 year old D man with over 500 games that's really finding his stride, people forget D men seem to peak later in their careers, Hanifin could really just be entering his prime years. That top line is aggressive though..


If Weegar resigns and that's a big if, it makes Hanifin expendable and a great trade chip. I think the Flames still need another piece in their top six, and their D core is insanely stacked. They have five top four dmen so trading one for a fwd makes a lot of sense. Andersson is going nowhere, Tanev is too old to carry a ton of value, and Kylington is still young with tons of room to grow. Hanifin is great but I think he's reached his peak. His value will never be higher than now
Jul. 26, 2022 at 11:44 a.m.
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Devils don't need help in the LHD department... they need a top-6 winger. Trading Bratt for a defenseman doesn't make sense. Not a prime trade partner.


Kylington plays both LD/RD. NJ had a -57 GF/GA differential last year. They need Defense. They are a prime trade partner considering both teams have cap flexibility, aren't in the same conference, and have different assets each team needs. Maybe it's not Bratt (Mercer or Holtz?)...Hanifin is a top 2 D in his prime, and I wouldn't send him to NJ for Bratt, with only one breakout season under his belt.
Jul. 26, 2022 at 11:52 a.m.
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Kylington plays both LD/RD. NJ had a -57 GF/GA differential last year. They need Defense. They are a prime trade partner considering both teams have cap flexibility, aren't in the same conference, and have different assets each team needs. Maybe it's not Bratt (Mercer or Holtz?)...Hanifin is a top 2 D in his prime, and I wouldn't send him to NJ for Bratt, with only one breakout season under his belt.


This year:
Grave-Hamilton
Sieg-Severson
Smith-Marino
Depth: Okhotyuk, Bahl, Vukojevic, Walsh, Nemec

Next year:
Sieg-Hamilton
Hughes-Marino
Smith-Nemec
Depth: Bahl, Okhotyuk, Vukojevic, Walsh, Mukhamadullin, Edwards, maybe more.

Devils couldn't get a save last year. We played 6 different goaltenders, with our #1 & #2 both injured for literally the entire season.
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Jul. 26, 2022 at 12:08 p.m.
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Quoting: MellowK
This year:
Grave-Hamilton
Sieg-Severson
Smith-Marino
Depth: Okhotyuk, Bahl, Vukojevic, Walsh, Nemec

Next year:
Sieg-Hamilton
Hughes-Marino
Smith-Nemec
Depth: Bahl, Okhotyuk, Vukojevic, Walsh, Mukhamadullin, Edwards, maybe more.

Devils couldn't get a save last year. We played 6 different goaltenders, with our #1 & #2 both injured for literally the entire season.


I agree that your goaltending was garbage. However, your D didn't have the ppg to justify their salaries. Kylington had more points than Hamilton and played 3 minutes less per game, at 8MM less per season. I'd keep Severson as long as the AAV and term are reasonable. There is no need to rush Nemec. Besides, NJ, unlike the NYI, has drafted well and has a plethora of young forwards. Losing Bratt, Mercer, or Holtz is immaterial.

Damon Severson
46
Dougie Hamilton
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Ryan Graves
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P.K. Subban
22
Ty Smith
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Jonas Siegenthaler
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Jul. 26, 2022 at 12:28 p.m.
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I agree that your goaltending was garbage. However, your D didn't have the ppg to justify their salaries. Kylington had more points than Hamilton and played 3 minutes less per game, at 8MM less per season. I'd keep Severson as long as the AAV and term are reasonable. There is no need to rush Nemec. Besides, NJ, unlike the NYI, has drafted well and has a plethora of young forwards. Losing Bratt, Mercer, or Holtz is immaterial.

Damon Severson
46
Dougie Hamilton
30
Ryan Graves
28
P.K. Subban
22
Ty Smith
20
Jonas Siegenthaler
14


We're talking about goal differential... Defensemen keeping the puck out of the net is more important than putting it in. Our offence was decent last season, at least for the 5th worth team in the league. Sieg was probably our second best Dman last year despite only having 14 points, there's a lot more to a player than the points they put up... especially defencemen.

Hamilton was also injured for the majority of last season, wasn't the same after returning from his broken jaw and was also reportedly playing with a broken toe. He had 20 points in his first 30 games before breaking his jaw and having surgery.

A 2nd overall pick that has already been playing in a men's league playing in his d+1 year is hardly rushing him.

Not sure what the argument is here... Devils need winger help more than help on defence, anyone that watches them would see that as obvious. Bratt also isn't signing the contract in this ACGM post anyway.
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Jul. 26, 2022 at 1:15 p.m.
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We're talking about goal differential... Defensemen keeping the puck out of the net is more important than putting it in. Our offence was decent last season, at least for the 5th worth team in the league. Sieg was probably our second best Dman last year despite only having 14 points, there's a lot more to a player than the points they put up... especially defencemen.

Hamilton was also injured for the majority of last season, wasn't the same after returning from his broken jaw and was also reportedly playing with a broken toe. He had 20 points in his first 30 games before breaking his jaw and having surgery.

A 2nd overall pick that has already been playing in a men's league playing in his d+1 year is hardly rushing him.

Not sure what the argument is here... Devils need winger help more than help on defence, anyone that watches them would see that as obvious. Bratt also isn't signing the contract in this ACGM post anyway.



My point is that Bratt for Kylington and Dube is not unreasonable. My guess is that he hasn't been signed because throwing huge AAVs to RFAs has backsides on so many teams.look at the Sharks...huge overpays on Coture, Hertl, and Karlsson. Same reasoning goes for Mangiapane. Is one breakout year indicative of a peak or steady progression for at least 50% of the term? I also. Think NJ is stacked with solid prospects who could play the wing. Wasn't Bratt a 6th round pick? They draft well, and could use Kylington.
Siegs was the same draft as Oliver Kylington, chosen 3 picks earlier, born two weeks before Kylington.
-175 NHL games, 27 points (0.15ppg) in Siegenthaler's career
-168 NHL games, 47 points (0.28ppg) in Kylington's career.
Jul. 26, 2022 at 1:53 p.m.
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My point is that Bratt for Kylington and Dube is not unreasonable. My guess is that he hasn't been signed because throwing huge AAVs to RFAs has backsides on so many teams.look at the Sharks...huge overpays on Coture, Hertl, and Karlsson. Same reasoning goes for Mangiapane. Is one breakout year indicative of a peak or steady progression for at least 50% of the term? I also. Think NJ is stacked with solid prospects who could play the wing. Wasn't Bratt a 6th round pick? They draft well, and could use Kylington.
Siegs was the same draft as Oliver Kylington, chosen 3 picks earlier, born two weeks before Kylington.
-175 NHL games, 27 points (0.15ppg) in Siegenthaler's career
-168 NHL games, 47 points (0.28ppg) in Kylington's career.


We're still on Sieg's points?

https://twitter.com/ARHockeyStats/status/1541805315263455232
https://twitter.com/JFreshHockey/status/1551950793816809474

He isn't a 3rd pairing Dman... which he would be next year behind Hughes and whoever is coming back in this hypothetical trade. Is it a bad thing to have too many good defencemen? Of course not. Unless you're trading your only legitimate top-6 winger for them.

Your read on why Bratt isn't signed is the opposite is of what's happening. Fitz wants him on a longterm deal, reports are that he has a significant longterm extension on the table already. Bratt wants less term to bet on himself that he truly is a top line winger. The contract currently on the table is supposedly a little north of $7m.

My point is that the Devils need top-6 wingers more than they need top-4 defencemen. So we're not a prime trade partner, we'd be more interested in Mangiapane than one of your defencemen.
Jul. 26, 2022 at 2:12 p.m.
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We're still on Sieg's points?

https://twitter.com/ARHockeyStats/status/1541805315263455232
https://twitter.com/JFreshHockey/status/1551950793816809474

He isn't a 3rd pairing Dman... which he would be next year behind Hughes and whoever is coming back in this hypothetical trade. Is it a bad thing to have too many good defencemen? Of course not. Unless you're trading your only legitimate top-6 winger for them.

Your read on why Bratt isn't signed is the opposite is of what's happening. Fitz wants him on a longterm deal, reports are that he has a significant longterm extension on the table already. Bratt wants less term to bet on himself that he truly is a top line winger. The contract currently on the table is supposedly a little north of $7m.

My point is that the Devils need top-6 wingers more than they need top-4 defencemen. So we're not a prime trade partner, we'd be more interested in Mangiapane than one of your defencemen.


That's fair. Don't you think Holtz and Mercer have top 6 potential? Grits may not be ready but it seems like there are lots of options given your centers.
 
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