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MAF trade

Created by: balzer55
Team: 2017-18 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: May 18, 2017
Published: May 18, 2017
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
will add more minor signings later
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,500,000
2$2,500,000
1$800,000
3$4,000,000
1$800,000
3$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$3,000,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Hamilton, Dougie
CGY
  1. Fleury, Marc-André
  2. 2018 2nd round pick (PIT)
2.
PIT
    EXPANSION
    VGK
    1. Hagelin, Carl
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2018
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    2019
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    2020
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$73,000,000$71,668,225$50,000$622,500$1,331,775
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Guentzel, Jake
    $734,167$734,167 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Crosby, Sidney
    $8,700,000$8,700,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    Hörnqvist, Patric
    $4,250,000$4,250,000
    RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Sheary, Conor
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    Malkin, Evgeni
    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Kessel, Phil
    $6,800,000$6,800,000
    RW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 5
    Versteeg, Kris
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Aston-Reese, Zach
    $925,000$925,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Rust, Bryan
    $640,000$640,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Wilson, Scott
    $625,000$625,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    Rowney, Carter
    $612,500$612,500
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Sprong, Daniel
    $692,500$692,500 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Sundqvist, Oskar
    $900,000$900,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Kühnhackl, Tom
    $625,000$625,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Dumoulin, Brian
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 6
    Letang, Kris
    $7,250,000$7,250,000
    RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 5
    Määttä, Olli
    $3,333,225$3,333,225
    LD
    UFA - 5
    Hamilton, Dougie
    $5,750,000$5,750,000
    RD
    UFA - 4
    Murray, Matt
    $3,750,000$3,750,000
    G
    UFA - 3
    Cole, Ian
    $2,100,000$2,100,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    Schultz, Justin
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Jarry, Tristan
    $630,833$630,833 (Performance Bonus$257,500$258K)
    G
    UFA - 1
    Pouliot, Derrick
    $800,000$800,000
    LD
    UFA - 1

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    May 18, 2017 at 3:04 p.m.
    #1
    NickC1988
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    Marc Andre Fleury does not get you Dougie Hamilton and the second round pick doesn't make up for the huge gap in value.
    May 18, 2017 at 3:06 p.m.
    #2
    DiehardRedWingsFan58
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    MAF value at the most is a 2nd round pick, No way does MAF+2nd round pick net you a D man of Dougie Hamiltons caliber.
    May 18, 2017 at 3:09 p.m.
    #3
    ClockReads2113
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    No way that gets you DH.
    May 18, 2017 at 3:18 p.m.
    #4
    Capitalfail67
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    hahah woof....fluery at best gets you a 2nd more realistically he gets bought out bc why would he agree to go to a team then have the team give up picks and become weaker to get him when he could just get bought out get paid by the pens and take a smaller salary with another team...making the other team better and having more cap?
    May 18, 2017 at 3:27 p.m.
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    jitta18
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    I think this Is a terrific proposal to see the Pens build on what is a dynasty in the NHL. Real value for how MAF has been playing.
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    May 18, 2017 at 3:31 p.m.
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    NickC1988
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    Quoting: jitta18
    I think this Is a terrific proposal to see the Pens build on what is a dynasty in the NHL. Real value for how MAF has been playing.


    You are high
    May 18, 2017 at 3:32 p.m.
    #7
    Arom5477
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    Change the pick to a 1st. OR Add Pouliot and leave the rest.
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    May 18, 2017 at 3:40 p.m.
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    palhal
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    Quoting: jitta18
    I think this Is a terrific proposal to see the Pens build on what is a dynasty in the NHL. Real value for how MAF has been playing.


    If you haven't been following the NHL. There is an expansion draft. Unless NMC Fleury can be moved, Fleury will be bought out, or the Pens trade Murray. There are so few teams that would be willing to take Fleury (because of the draft and his salary) and so few teams that Fleury will agree to waive his NMC. As a result, the Pens will accept ANY offer and be happy with it. It's not about MAF hockey player value, it's all the other factors that will make or don't make a trade. A 7th rounder might be the best offer for Fleury.....and the Pens would take it.
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    May 18, 2017 at 3:54 p.m.
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    NickC1988
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    Quoting: Arom5477
    Change the pick to a 1st. OR Add Pouliot and leave the rest.


    That still doesn't make it close to even.
    May 19, 2017 at 12:52 a.m.
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    SnshineLolipops
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    Quoting: palhal
    If you haven't been following the NHL. There is an expansion draft. Unless NMC Fleury can be moved, Fleury will be bought out, or the Pens trade Murray. There are so few teams that would be willing to take Fleury (because of the draft and his salary) and so few teams that Fleury will agree to waive his NMC. As a result, the Pens will accept ANY offer and be happy with it. It's not about MAF hockey player value, it's all the other factors that will make or don't make a trade. A 7th rounder might be the best offer for Fleury.....and the Pens would take it.

    I agree that Fleury's value isn't this high, but I think it's higher than you say. He has to be protected from the expansion draft because of his NMC, but in terms of trading he has a modified no trade clause (lists 18 teams that he can be traded to). With that in mind I think there's a fair chance he'll get dealt for a reasonable return.
    May 19, 2017 at 1:22 p.m.
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    exo2769
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    Quoting: palhal


    If you haven't been following the NHL. There is an expansion draft. Unless NMC Fleury can be moved, Fleury will be bought out, or the Pens trade Murray. There are so few teams that would be willing to take Fleury (because of the draft and his salary) and so few teams that Fleury will agree to waive his NMC. As a result, the Pens will accept ANY offer and be happy with it. It's not about MAF hockey player value, it's all the other factors that will make or don't make a trade. A 7th rounder might be the best offer for Fleury.....and the Pens would take it.


    Well, there's kinda an exception to this. MAF can waive his NMC and PIT now protect Murray just to leave MAF exposed. So they don't technically HAVE to move him. At some point PIT needs to look at themselves and say..."We'll risk him being exposed." Maybe Vegas takes him and eats that salary. Good news for PIT! Maybe they don't. A 7th rounder may not be worth removing a solid backup. WITH THAT SAID. 2 more things. A.) If MAF doesn't waive...Trade Murray 100%. B.) I'm not sure why MAF would do this. He'd make more money being bought out and then signing a new contract.
     
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