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2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #10 - Kadri oh Kadri, wherefore art thou Kadri?

Aug. 1, 2022 at 11:23 a.m.
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Quoting: Canesfan21_
So the Devils have no problem giving 31 year old Palat 6 million for 5 years out don’t want to give their leading scorer from last season more than 4.1 million. Got it


I don't think Canes fans are allowed to comment about other GMs lowballing assets tears of joy
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Aug. 1, 2022 at 11:26 a.m.
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Quoting: PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188
Current USA WJC '22 Roster:

Goaltenders:

Remington Koepple (2023 draft eligible)

Kaidan Mbereko (2023 draft eligible)

Andrew Oke (2023 draft eligible)

Defensemen:

Sean Behrens (COL)

Brock Faber (MIN)

Aidan Hreschuk (CBJ)

Luke Hughes (NJD)

Wyatt Kaiser (CHI)

Tyler Kleven (OTT)

Ian Moore (ANA)

Jack Peart (MIN)

Jacob Truscott (VAN)

Forwards:

Brett Berard (NYR)

Thomas Bordeleau (SJS)

Logan Cooley (ARZ)

Matt Coronato (CGY)

Riley Duran (BOS)

Dominic James (CHI)

Matt Knies (TOR)

Carter Mazur (DET)

Hunter McKown (2023 draft eligible)

Frank Nazar (CHI)

Sasha Pastujov (ANA)

Mackie Samoskevich (FLA)

Red Savage (DET)

Landon Slaggert (CHI)

Charlie Stramel (2023 draft eligible)

NOTE: Issac Howard, Ryan Chesley, Lane Huston, Cutter Gauthier, Rutger McGroarty, and Jimmy Snuggerud all got cut. Still a heck of a team.


This is gonna be a great team. I'm disappointed that Scott Morrow didn't make the team over some of those guys, though.
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Aug. 1, 2022 at 11:39 a.m.
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I just uploaded my top 50 players for fantasy '22-23 (Yahoo Standard Leagues), rankings are based on statistical evaluation, the final outcome of Yahoo's fantasy rankings for '21-22, and subjective predictions.

Here's the full list
Aug. 1, 2022 at 11:43 a.m.
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has there been any rumors recently of deals that might happen
Aug. 1, 2022 at 12:12 p.m.
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Ya. You can’t tell me with a straight face that the leafs LWs are better than the rangers.


and if you can, you probably should try some poker.
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Aug. 1, 2022 at 12:28 p.m.
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and if you can, you probably should try some poker.


Lol, yup because I don’t think it’s possible for anyone to actually believe that.
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Aug. 1, 2022 at 12:49 p.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
has there been any rumors recently of deals that might happen


Kadri to Isles
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Aug. 1, 2022 at 1:03 p.m.
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I don't think Canes fans are allowed to comment about other GMs lowballing assets tears of joy


I knew someone would go there
Aug. 1, 2022 at 1:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil
4.15????

Wtf Fitz

I’m a free agent now. Which team should I support?


The Canucks. We have Hughes
Aug. 1, 2022 at 1:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Juiceman
The Canucks. We have Hughes


Canucks have the 5th best Hughes
Aug. 1, 2022 at 1:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil
4.15????

Wtf Fitz

I’m a free agent now. Which team should I support?


The Rangers. They have this incredible kid named Kakko-and he plays against men!!!
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Aug. 1, 2022 at 1:22 p.m.
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Canucks have the best Hughes


Glad you finally agree
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Aug. 1, 2022 at 2:11 p.m.
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team arbitration offers are usually lowballs so i don't know why everyone is surprised.
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Aug. 1, 2022 at 2:23 p.m.
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team arbitration offers are usually lowballs so i don't know why everyone is surprised.


I think people are probably also surprised he didn't offer Bratt 7 X6.25 and hope he takes if he wants 6.5
Aug. 1, 2022 at 2:37 p.m.
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Quoting: PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188
Current USA WJC '22 Roster:

Goaltenders:

Remington Koepple (2023 draft eligible)

Kaidan Mbereko (2023 draft eligible)

Andrew Oke (2023 draft eligible)

Defensemen:

Sean Behrens (COL)

Brock Faber (MIN)

Aidan Hreschuk (CBJ)

Luke Hughes (NJD)

Wyatt Kaiser (CHI)

Tyler Kleven (OTT)

Ian Moore (ANA)

Jack Peart (MIN)

Jacob Truscott (VAN)

Forwards:

Brett Berard (NYR)

Thomas Bordeleau (SJS)

Logan Cooley (ARZ)

Matt Coronato (CGY)

Riley Duran (BOS)

Dominic James (CHI)

Matt Knies (TOR)

Carter Mazur (DET)

Hunter McKown (2023 draft eligible)

Frank Nazar (CHI)

Sasha Pastujov (ANA)

Mackie Samoskevich (FLA)

Red Savage (DET)

Landon Slaggert (CHI)

Charlie Stramel (2023 draft eligible)

NOTE: Issac Howard, Ryan Chesley, Lane Huston, Cutter Gauthier, Rutger McGroarty, and Jimmy Snuggerud all got cut. Still a heck of a team.

Why isn’t Drew Commesso in net? That alone makes me like the team a lot less. Also I know Andrew Oke was draft eligible this year, so he’s not a 17yo fwiw. Still, not good in goal. At least it’ll be exciting to see what Stramel does at this tournament and the next one, I don’t think he made the December team, did he? 8 months of extra development is really key for ‘23 eligible guys though.
Aug. 1, 2022 at 2:44 p.m.
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Quoting: mondo
team arbitration offers are usually lowballs so i don't know why everyone is surprised.


Same. 4.15 is obviously low for Bratt but that’s the point. They know it’ll be higher but they want to get it as low as they can. Not unreasonable.
Aug. 1, 2022 at 2:49 p.m.
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My take on Bratt and the arbitration info that dropped today:

Devils are in a weird position were they don't have an excess of cap space.
With Bratt, Wood and Zetterlund yet to sign, it's gonna be pretty tight.

I currently view it as the Devils having signed 11F (McLeod included, for now), 7D and 3GK (the third GK being Bernier) accounting for a cap hit of 73.75m (dead cap included).
Then, allowing for the assumption of signing Wood (2.975m) and Zetterlund (900k) brings the cap hit to 77.63m.
If Bratt comes in at anywhere above 4.85m, the Devils will be over the 82.5m limit, provided that Bernier spends no time on LTIR and aiming at a 21 man roster.

Now, Bernier will most likely spend a significant portion of this season on LTIR, but if he's cleared in Nov / Dec with Bratt signed at 5m+, the Devils are gonna be forced to make a bad trade for cap relief.
Given how little Patches and Björkstrand returned, I shudder at the thought of how a Johnsson or Tatar trade will have to go down for the Devils in season.

Anyway, this may partially explain why Bratt isn't extended long term already.
There is no doubt in my mind that signing Bratt to as big a contract as an 8x8 today, would be a major steal.

A lot of us Devils fans (and others in the community) have been going with the assumption that Bernier's 4.125m cap hit will be a non factor throughout the season.
This recent arbitration info suggests otherwise, to me anyway.
Also, Kuokkanen's buyout makes a lot more sense from this pov as well (pls come back Janne I miss you )': )

Thank you for attending my TedTalk.

edit: frikk it, will make this into an AGM to spread my gospel for and wide
Aug. 1, 2022 at 3:20 p.m.
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
I think people are probably also surprised he didn't offer Bratt 7 X6.25 and hope he takes if he wants 6.5


Bratt wants 6.5M for a short term deal, not long term
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Aug. 1, 2022 at 3:20 p.m.
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I honestly hope Kadri's deal is closer to 9-10 mill than 6 mill. Make it a contract that's impossible to move so he has to be on a rebuilding isles team for the next 6-7 years.
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Aug. 1, 2022 at 3:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Tintin
My take on Bratt and the arbitration info that dropped today:

Devils are in a weird position were they don't have an excess of cap space.
With Bratt, Wood and Zetterlund yet to sign, it's gonna be pretty tight.

I currently view it as the Devils having signed 11F (McLeod included, for now), 7D and 3GK (the third GK being Bernier) accounting for a cap hit of 73.75m (dead cap included).
Then, allowing for the assumption of signing Wood (2.975m) and Zetterlund (900k) brings the cap hit to 77.63m.
If Bratt comes in at anywhere above 4.85m, the Devils will be over the 82.5m limit, provided that Bernier spends no time on LTIR and aiming at a 21 man roster.

Now, Bernier will most likely spend a significant portion of this season on LTIR, but if he's cleared in Nov / Dec with Bratt signed at 5m+, the Devils are gonna be forced to make a bad trade for cap relief.
Given how little Patches and Björkstrand returned, I shudder at the thought of how a Johnsson or Tatar trade will have to go down for the Devils in season.

Anyway, this may partially explain why Bratt isn't extended long term already.
There is no doubt in my mind that signing Bratt to as big a contract as an 8x8 today, would be a major steal.

A lot of us Devils fans (and others in the community) have been going with the assumption that Bernier's 4.125m cap hit will be a non factor throughout the season.
This recent arbitration info suggests otherwise, to me anyway.
Also, Kuokkanen's buyout makes a lot more sense from this pov as well (pls come back Janne I miss you )': )

Thank you for attending my TedTalk.

edit: frikk it, will make this into an AGM to spread my gospel for and wide


Qualifying wood still surprises me as 3.5mill is to much for him especially when we consider he didnt play last year.

Should have made a deal where they dont give him a QO then sign him to a 2mill x 1 year deal like what we saw Arizona do with Fischer
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Aug. 1, 2022 at 3:23 p.m.
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Do you guys know when Team Canada decides their WJC roster?
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Aug. 1, 2022 at 3:28 p.m.
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I honestly hope Kadri's deal is closer to 9-10 mill than 6 mill. Make it a contract that's impossible to move so he has to be on a rebuilding isles team for the next 6-7 years.


that would also get lou fired
Aug. 1, 2022 at 3:31 p.m.
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that would also get lou fired


Correct
Aug. 1, 2022 at 3:32 p.m.
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Do you guys know when Team Canada decides their WJC roster?


I think they got some other stuff they have to worry about
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Aug. 1, 2022 at 3:35 p.m.
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I think they got some other stuff they have to worry about


Well yeah no sh*t sherlock, but will they even make a roster or even go at all? I’ve heard about the other teams, but I haven’t for them at all, so I’m curious on this situation.
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