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MUZZIN WAIVES FOR SUNNY SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

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Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 29, 2022
Published: Jul. 29, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
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2$1,800,000
3$3,250,000
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1$1,800,000
1$1,750,000
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  1. 2023 2nd round pick (ANA)
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  1. Muzzin, Jake
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21$82,500,000$80,018,250$212,500$0$2,481,750
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$950,000$950,000
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
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UFA - 4
$1,800,000$1,800,000
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UFA - 1
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C
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LD
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RD
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Jul. 29, 2022 at 8:23 p.m.
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Quoting: chefed
He is on the Ducks


?
Jul. 29, 2022 at 8:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Ansabch12
Because the Flames have absolutely zero interest in trading Andersson, we would be reluctant to that deal 1 for 1 but you want Toffoli on top of that, pretty easy no from us.


To get Nylander I think Brad would trade this package in a second. Look at the logjam on defense Plus Willi is a Calgary product
Jul. 29, 2022 at 8:27 p.m.
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Nope


yep, the leafs were one of the best teams in the league by defensive metrics all season, shut down tampas top guys very well and lost a game 7 by one goal. they need more goals from the bottom of the roster. It's really easy if you'd watched the games
Jul. 29, 2022 at 8:28 p.m.
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Yes Shattenkirk and Klingberg will be off the Books and those are spots we are going to have to fill externally seeing as we have 0 in-house options for that. Muzzin is not worth is cap hit this year, and he surely won’t be worth that cap hit next year.

Zegras, Terry and Drysdale could easily take up 20M+ of that cap space, then we have two glaring holes at RD to be filled. Cap space goes away a lot faster than it seems likes. Not to mention it limits our ability to improve the team next offseason when we will be in a position much like Ottawa is right now.

This seems a lot to me like let’s use our cap space just because we have it without actually thinking of the success of the team.


So he plays 2 million in cap hit below his contract the next two years. This year we have the room and its no problem, Next year the Perry buyout and the John Moore recap penalty fall off, freeing another 3.6 million in cap, plus the extra million the cap goes up. We give a number or the youngins at RD a look this year and roll one of them out next year, Flip Fowler to his offhand for a year if we are desperate.

If you really want we can attach a clause to our 2nd round pick which says if we move up less than 10 or 12 spaces, the anaheim 2nd round becomes our next highest 2nd in 2023, but that just invites Toronto to lottery protect their pick, which I don't want. They've been playing with fire for a number of years running bare bones rosters that are incredibly top heavy, and now they have two massive question marks in net.

We are going to have the hole at Right D regardless, that's a problem we have to solve anyway. I don't think tying up the 5,6 in cap for one year is going to make or break our trajectory, he may play below his cap hit, but I don't see the likelihood he plays below that of a 2 million player, so we are forfeiting 3.6 for a year, which we just got back from buyout and recap penalty, making it effectively a wash.

Half the damned players in the league next year are free agents as well, and many teams wont be able to afford to resign a bunch of mid level guys, we will be able to find a warm body or two at right D until we can find someone we like, and hopefully use the Toronto 1st to draft a near NHL ready RD.
Jul. 29, 2022 at 8:32 p.m.
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yep, the leafs were one of the best teams in the league by defensive metrics all season, shut down tampas top guys very well and lost a game 7 by one goal. they need more goals from the bottom of the roster. It's really easy if you'd watched the games


I watched all the games this team addresses all the shortcomings I seen, they are too small and get pushed around RHD is weak .We added players to address secondary scoring with Milano
Jul. 29, 2022 at 8:38 p.m.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
?


On this AGM he just got traded to the Ducks .But I can see a trade with the Ducks retaining 50% but not for Walker ,Only reason leaf's would trade Muzz is to for the cap space
Jul. 29, 2022 at 8:38 p.m.
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To get Nylander I think Brad would trade this package in a second. Look at the logjam on defense Plus Willi is a Calgary product


You clearly dont know how much the Flames value Andersson, theres no shot he would trade him for Nylander and you're asking for Toffoli as well, thats an obvious no. Let me put it this way even with that logjam on defence Andersson is easily the last defenceman they would trade out of that core.
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Jul. 29, 2022 at 8:48 p.m.
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You clearly dont know how much the Flames value Andersson, theres no shot he would trade him for Nylander and you're asking for Toffoli as well, thats an obvious no. Let me put it this way even with that logjam on defence Andersson is easily the last defenceman they would trade out of that core.


Hannifin Weegar ,If both players you got for Chucky walk you will still want a star player Nylander
Jul. 29, 2022 at 8:57 p.m.
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I watched all the games this team addresses all the shortcomings I seen, they are too small and get pushed around RHD is weak .We added players to address secondary scoring with Milano


lol, no they did not get pushed around. Not even close. just the laziest take borrowed from the sportsnet panel and O-Dog. The RHD is fine, and you didnt adress secondary scoring, you brought in two players who cant even score enough to replace the one guy you traded and then added a third one who wont score near as much on the 3rd line.
This is a worse team
Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:01 p.m.
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Hannifin Weegar ,If both players you got for Chucky walk you will still want a star player Nylander


Nah Ras is our most valued defencemen 100%, and even if both players walk we can move them at the deadline for a good haul and start a rebuild. It isn't worth it for us to move Ras and Toffoli for Nylander, now if you changed Toffoli id consider it but as it is no way.
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Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:03 p.m.
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On this AGM he just got traded to the Ducks .But I can see a trade with the Ducks retaining 50% but not for Walker ,Only reason leaf's would trade Muzz is to for the cap space


The Kings aren't interested in Muzzin unless it's in a cap neutral trade. Walker is the only expendable piece on the roster with a similar cap hit. Unless it's exactly the same trade I mentioned (Muzzin to LA at 50% retention for Sean Walker), then the Kings aren't interested.

I suppose someone could offer Muzzin at 50% for future considerations, then the Kings could trade Walker elsewhere. That would work too.
Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:08 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
lol, no they did not get pushed around. Not even close. just the laziest take borrowed from the sportsnet panel and O-Dog. The RHD is fine, and you didnt adress secondary scoring, you brought in two players who cant even score enough to replace the one guy you traded and then added a third one who wont score near as much on the 3rd line.
This is a worse team


Wrong
Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:09 p.m.
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Nah Ras is our most valued defencemen 100%, and even if both players walk we can move them at the deadline for a good haul and start a rebuild. It isn't worth it for us to move Ras and Toffoli for Nylander, now if you changed Toffoli id consider it but as it is no way.


Maybe sub Dube
Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:14 p.m.
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Wrong


good job, good effort
Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:14 p.m.
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Maybe sub Dube


sure, if the leafs get to sub Engvall for Nylander
Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:16 p.m.
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As long as it's not to the Kings, I'm on board.


Well you sure jinxed yourself there lol
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Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:19 p.m.
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good job, good effort


Thanks I knew you would see the light .Not even close. just the laziest take borrowed from the sportsnet panel and O-Dog. Who is that I live in Mexico
Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:23 p.m.
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Thanks I knew you would see the light .Not even close. just the laziest take borrowed from the sportsnet panel and O-Dog. Who is that I live in Mexico


yeeeep
Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:43 p.m.
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Flames dont consider that
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Jul. 29, 2022 at 9:58 p.m.
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Flames dont consider that


Yes they do
Jul. 29, 2022 at 10:01 p.m.
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Yes they do


Lol ok man enlighten me why Nylander is worth an entire top 6 player more than a 4.5M 25yo #1 RD with 4 years of term. Doubt I'd do a 1 for 1 with ras and Nylander, let alone add Toffoli
Jul. 29, 2022 at 10:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Lol ok man enlighten me why Nylander is worth an entire top 6 player more than a 4.5M 25yo #1 RD with 4 years of term. Doubt I'd do a 1 for 1 with ras and Nylander, let alone add Toffoli


If both players you got for Chucky walk you will still want a star player Nylander
Jul. 29, 2022 at 10:07 p.m.
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If both players you got for Chucky walk you will still want a star player Nylander


Nylander is not a star player lol and if both players plan to walk Calgary will sell and rebuild instead
Jul. 30, 2022 at 3:22 p.m.
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NICE
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Jul. 30, 2022 at 5:15 p.m.
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NICE
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Cannot take the credit stole it from some old guy from NY
 
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