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Created by: ThatBoredHockeyFan
Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 2, 2022
Published: Aug. 2, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,750,000
2$1,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,750,000
2$750,000
Trades
1.
ARI
  1. Bernard-Docker, Jacob
  2. Formenton, Alex
  3. Kastelic, Mark
  4. 2023 1st round pick (OTT)
  5. 2023 2nd round pick (OTT)
  6. 2024 2nd round pick (WSH)
Additional Details:
Top 5 protected 1st
2.
OTT
ARI
  1. Zaitsev, Nikita
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$78,659,881$0$4,025,000$3,840,119
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 6
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 8
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
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$6,400,000$6,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 3
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
C
RFA - 1
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$762,500$762,500
LW
RFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 6
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$3,666,667$3,666,667
G
UFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LD
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA

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Aug. 2, 2022 at 10:56 a.m.
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Not a bad offer!

My initial thoughts are the Yotes may want Batherson over Formenton, but.......
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Aug. 2, 2022 at 10:57 a.m.
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Quoting: swinny
Not a bad offer!

My initial thoughts are the Yotes may want Batherson over Formenton, but.......


They aren't getting Batherson lol.
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Aug. 2, 2022 at 10:59 a.m.
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Quoting: sens65
They aren't getting Batherson lol.


Didn't say they would lol. Just saying that is what they may want
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Aug. 2, 2022 at 11:46 a.m.
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Quoting: swinny
Didn't say they would lol. Just saying that is what they may want


I would like McDavid, with a side of Marchand and a hint of Makar with my order as well.
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Aug. 2, 2022 at 11:59 a.m.
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Quoting: swinny
Didn't say they would lol. Just saying that is what they may want


They aren’t gonna get a solid established young player. The team they’re building anyways they’re gonna value prospects and picks anyways
Aug. 2, 2022 at 11:59 a.m.
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Quoting: swinny
Not a bad offer!

My initial thoughts are the Yotes may want Batherson over Formenton, but.......


Are you nuts, You think the Sens are moving probably the best value contract in the NHL as far as points and performance per $.

This offer as is a HUGE overpayment for Chucyurn. He is good young D and has a good salary for a couple more years, but we is getting hyped a littel too much, only played over 60 games in a season twice, and only broke 20 assists one season. Also Ottawa likely doesn't keep him without moving another larger piece. so the cost is even higher. Not worth it.

Fromenton is a PK asset, with top 5 speed and room to grow offensively so better than Milano already. Also, Formenton is 22 as opposed to Milano who is 26 and reached his poteinal.
JDB is a 2nd pairing D likely the 1st pairing, and with his history and chemistry with Sanderson (played a whole season as a pair in University) it makes sense to keep them together.
Then also a 1 st and 2 nds, that is a lot.
Aug. 2, 2022 at 12:36 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
They aren’t gonna get a solid established young player. The team they’re building anyways they’re gonna value prospects and picks anyways


Normally I would agree, but that Batherson contract is fantastic..... provided he is all clear.
Aug. 2, 2022 at 1:00 p.m.
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Quoting: swinny
Normally I would agree, but that Batherson contract is fantastic..... provided he is all clear.


He’s too old for Arizona anyways . They’re not gonna get good value since they’re not close to cap anyways. A team that’s close to the cap would be much better for him who’s also competing now. By the time Arizona starts to compete , he will be 27 with 2 years left on his deal or 28 with 1 year left
Aug. 2, 2022 at 2:05 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
He’s too old for Arizona anyways . They’re not gonna get good value since they’re not close to cap anyways. A team that’s close to the cap would be much better for him who’s also competing now. By the time Arizona starts to compete , he will be 27 with 2 years left on his deal or 28 with 1 year left


Can see the arguement, just wondering if Batherson is the stronger asset. It's Arizona. They are still moving and shaking. To pick him up to flip him in a couple years wouldn't be outside the wheelhouse.
Aug. 2, 2022 at 2:17 p.m.
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Edited Aug. 2, 2022 at 2:23 p.m.
Seriously, if that's the price for Chychrun, I would just let another team pay it

Formenton, Alex : mid 1st round pick value
Kastelic, Mark : don't know what he's worth but going to be a solid 4th line center for years (think Nate Thomson)
Bernard-Docker, Jacob : late 1st round pick value at least, will be a solid quiet defensive D-man
2023 1st round pick (OTT)
2023 2nd round pick (OTT)
2024 2nd round pick (WSH)

Three 1sts + two 2nds + Kastelic

That seems really high. I would be more comfortable if you remove JBD and a 2nd, or remove remove JBD + Kastelic + 2nd but add Brannstrom

Formenton + Brannstrom + 1st + 2nd

Quoting: swinny
Not a bad offer!

My initial thoughts are the Yotes may want Batherson over Formenton, but.......


ok but I wouldn't trade Batherson for Chychrun
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Aug. 2, 2022 at 6:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Xspyrit
Seriously, if that's the price for Chychrun, I would just let another team pay it

Formenton, Alex : mid 1st round pick value
Kastelic, Mark : don't know what he's worth but going to be a solid 4th line center for years (think Nate Thomson)
Bernard-Docker, Jacob : late 1st round pick value at least, will be a solid quiet defensive D-man
2023 1st round pick (OTT)
2023 2nd round pick (OTT)
2024 2nd round pick (WSH)

Three 1sts + two 2nds + Kastelic

That seems really high. I would be more comfortable if you remove JBD and a 2nd, or remove remove JBD + Kastelic + 2nd but add Brannstrom

Formenton + Brannstrom + 1st + 2nd



ok but I wouldn't trade Batherson for Chychrun


Fair point maybe Kastelic, Formenton, Wsh 2nd, Zastiev and a 2024 ott 2nd
 
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