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Playoff Team

Created by: DDerv
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 2, 2022
Published: Aug. 2, 2022
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Kleven, Tyler3$925,000
Latimer, Carson3$900,000
Alsing, Olle3$800,000
Donovan, Jorian3$850,000
Loheit, Luke2$950,000
Novak, Jakov2$900,000
Pettersson, Oskar3$900,000
Nordberg, Filip3$850,000
Halliday, Stephen3$800,000
Johansson, Oliver3$800,000
Roger, Ben3$900,000
Tychonick, Jonathan1$800,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Bernard-Docker, Jacob3$1,000,000
DeBrincat, Alex8$9,000,000
Stützle, Tim8$8,250,000
Aspirot, Jonathan3$775,000
Gambrell, Dylan3$775,000
Kastelic, Mark3$825,000
Lodin, Viktor3$875,000
Mandolese, Kevin2$900,000
Pinto, Shane3$1,250,000
Sokolov, Egor3$1,000,000
Rubins, Kristians1$775,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Zub, Artem4$4,000,000
Sabourin, Scott1$775,000
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
ARI
  1. Brännström, Erik [RFA Rights]
  2. Thomson, Lassi
  3. Boucher, Tyler
  4. Zaitsev, Nikita
  5. 2023 1st round pick (OTT)
2.
OTT
  1. Gibson, John ($1,000,000 retained)
ANA
  1. Formenton, Alex [RFA Rights]
  2. Forsberg, Anton
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
Buyouts
  • Bobby Ryan: $1,833,333
  • Colin White: $875,000
  • Michael Del Zotto: $750,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Matt Murray: $1,562,500 (25%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,500,000$83,377,380$0$1,850,000$122,620

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Tkachuk, Brady
$8,205,714
LW, C
UFA - 5
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Norris, Joshua
$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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Batherson, Drake
$4,975,000
RW
UFA - 4
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DeBrincat, Alex
$9,000,000
LW, RW
RFA
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Stützle, Tim
$8,250,000
LW, C
UFA - 8
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Giroux, Claude
$6,500,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 2
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Greig, Ridly
$863,333
LW
RFA - 2
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Pinto, Shane
$1,250,000
C
RFA
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Joseph, Mathieu
$2,950,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 3
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Sokolov, Egor
$1,000,000
LW
RFA
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Kelly, Parker
$762,500
C, LW
RFA - 1
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Lodin, Viktor
$875,000
C, LW
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Chabot, Thomas
$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
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Chychrun, Jakob
$4,600,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Gibson, John
$5,400,000
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NTC
UFA - 4
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Sanderson, Jake
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
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Zub, Artem
$4,000,000
RD
UFA
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Søgaard, Mads
$925,000
G
RFA - 1
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Kleven, Tyler
$925,000
LD
RFA
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Bernard-Docker, Jacob
$1,000,000
RD
RFA

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Tkachuk, B.
Norris, J.
DeBrincat, A.
Stützle, T.
Chabot, T.
Power Play 2
Joseph, M.
Giroux, C.
Batherson, D.
Sanderson, J.
Chychrun, J.
Penalty Kill 1
Joseph, M.
Pinto, S.
Chabot, T.
Chychrun, J.
Penalty Kill 2
Greig, R.
Sokolov, E.
Sanderson, J.
Zub, A.

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Aug. 2 at 3:31 p.m.
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Islanders decline unless you meant to trade for Varlamov at the 2022-2023 Deadline
Aug. 2 at 3:45 p.m.
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Horrible trade from the Isles perspective
Aug. 2 at 3:57 p.m.
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There is value to that package but Isles won't want to trade Sorokin
Aug. 2 at 4:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Xspyrit
There is value to that package but Isles won't want to trade Sorokin


Value, sure. The kind of value to get an arguably top 5 goalie in the league. Absolutely ****ing not!
Aug. 2 at 4:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Xspyrit
There is value to that package but Isles won't want to trade Sorokin


formenton has no value to me IMO until the hockey canada investigation is resolved, but even then he can't be the headlining piece in a package for a top 5 goalie in the league.
Aug. 2 at 6:47 p.m.
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Value, sure. The kind of value to get an arguably top 5 goalie in the league. Absolutely ****ing not!


Hmm what is he worth? I have followed the NHL for a long time and goalies never had the same comparative value to players

Forsberg is only 2-3 years older so both goalies are still young, he was pretty good last year. Sure Sorokin is a much better bet to continue to be great but that's why Formenton and 2nd are added. I'm not saying that would do it but acting like it was not even close is hyperbole at best

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formenton has no value to me IMO until the hockey canada investigation is resolved, but even then he can't be the headlining piece in a package for a top 5 goalie in the league.


He shouldn't be in trade proposals at all. No idea why people are putting him there
Aug. 2 at 6:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Xspyrit
Hmm what is he worth? I have followed the NHL for a long time and goalies never had the same comparative value to players

Forsberg is only 2-3 years older so both goalies are still young, he was pretty good last year. Sure Sorokin is a much better bet to continue to be great but that's why Formenton and 2nd are added. I'm not saying that would do it but acting like it was not even close is hyperbole at best


i don’t know about pure value since we haven’t seen a goalie trade for a player of his caliber in a long time but it would have to be a significantly better package than this to get the islanders to take it. at least one top prospect and a first rounder to start any conversation.
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Aug. 2 at 7:47 p.m.
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i don’t know about pure value since we haven’t seen a goalie trade for a player of his caliber in a long time but it would have to be a significantly better package than this to get the islanders to take it. at least one top prospect and a first rounder to start any conversation.


One I can think of :

Jun. 30, 2013

New Jersey Devils Acquire: Cory Schneider

Vancouver Canucks Acquire: 2013 1st round pick (NJD - #9 - Bo Horvat)


Alex Formenton IS that top prospect you're talking about. It just happened that he played 1 NHL season at 22 y/o and led the league in short handed goals (5) and added 13 ES goals.

I made a poll asking Sens fans a few months ago :

Would you have traded Alex Formenton for a late 1st round pick at the past deadline? Which asset would you rather have?

Alex Formenton (22 y/o, RFA) Votes: 118 96.7%
1st round pick in 2022 (27th OA to 32nd OA) Votes: 4 3.3%

Total voters 122 Poll closed May 5, 2022.


Forsberg + 2nd is a pretty nice add on top of him. I totally understand if you don't see this because there's absolutely no reason to trade Sorokin unless it was for a ransom. I would seriously ask the same for Mads Sogaard and he has played 2 NHL games.

So I repeat again, while it may not be "enough", thinking it's far from enough is hyperbole, at best.
Aug. 2 at 7:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Xspyrit
One I can think of :

Jun. 30, 2013

New Jersey Devils Acquire: Cory Schneider

Vancouver Canucks Acquire: 2013 1st round pick (NJD - #9 - Bo Horvat)


Alex Formenton IS that top prospect you're talking about. It just happened that he played 1 NHL season at 22 y/o and led the league in short handed goals (5) and added 13 ES goals.

I made a poll asking Sens fans a few months ago :

Would you have traded Alex Formenton for a late 1st round pick at the past deadline? Which asset would you rather have?

Alex Formenton (22 y/o, RFA) Votes: 118 96.7%
1st round pick in 2022 (27th OA to 32nd OA) Votes: 4 3.3%

Total voters 122 Poll closed May 5, 2022.


Forsberg + 2nd is a pretty nice add on top of him. I totally understand if you don't see this because there's absolutely no reason to trade Sorokin unless it was for a ransom. I would seriously ask the same for Mads Sogaard and he has played 2 NHL games.

So I repeat again, while it may not be "enough", thinking it's far from enough is hyperbole, at best.


every fanbase overvalues their own prospects, so i don’t put too much stock in a fan poll. like i said before, formenton does nothing for me right now in the face of the hockey canada thing, but even without that i’d much prefer a top 10 pick like schneider got or a better prospect than formenton. forsberg had a good year last year but was on waivers the year before, can he be consistent? and a second round pick again is fine but i’d prefer a first. i’d be looking for upgrades to all three pieces and to me that means it’s far from enough.
Aug. 3 at 12:38 a.m.
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Replaced the Sorokin trade with a trade for Gibson. The Sorokin one was definitely some wishful thinking, though I agree the package wasn't miles off given that Forsberg is a very serviceable and underrated goalie and Formenton still has plenty of upside. The Gibson trade I think is fair value with Gibson being a little unpredictable and Forsberg not being miles off. Formenton (without the Hockey Canada situation) and enough to bridge the difference even with the retained salary in my mind. Whether or not Anaheim would be willing to retain salary is the questionable part but I think they'd be willing to do it for that package in return. This team 2 years down the line would definitely be a contender and would be very hard to play against.
Aug. 11 at 10:41 p.m.
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Quoting: bagelbob
every fanbase overvalues their own prospects, so i don’t put too much stock in a fan poll. like i said before, formenton does nothing for me right now in the face of the hockey canada thing, but even without that i’d much prefer a top 10 pick like schneider got or a better prospect than formenton. forsberg had a good year last year but was on waivers the year before, can he be consistent? and a second round pick again is fine but i’d prefer a first. i’d be looking for upgrades to all three pieces and to me that means it’s far from enough.


Yeah but it's a community that I have been hanging with since 2008 and I'd say many posters are quite knowledgeable. Some even have scouting experience. We have observed Formenton's evolution for years and he's already pretty valuable. Just the fact that he has McDavid speed make him automatically very valuable.

https://www.silversevensens.com/2022/1/26/22901993/alex-formenton-has-arrived-ottawa-senators-sens-nhl

If he's guilty in the scandal he has no value and he can go to hell from all I care. e just have no idea and can only speculate. If he's not guilty then he has pretty good value. The guy led the league in short handed goals and actually think he will end up top-10 in NHL history if he is not a grade A a-hole

Anyway, if I had Sorokin no way I'd be trading him

For Forsberg we never know with goalies that I don't have a long track record but I don't know, he didn't look like a flash in the pan to me. Note that I called a lot of goalies like that (I have been a goalie for 30+ years) in the past, including Andre Hammond when he was 20-1-2 and 0.941 SV% and Mike Condon when he relieved Craig Anderson.
 
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