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Created by: xercuses
Team: 2022-23 Minnesota Wild
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 31, 2022
Published: Aug. 4, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
EDM
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (MIN)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$79,845,254$0$1,532,500$2,654,746
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW
UFA - 4
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
RFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$3,100,000$3,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$5,250,000$5,250,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,450,000$2,450,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$7,575,000$7,575,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$787,500$787,500
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$750,000$750,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 2

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Aug. 4, 2022 at 3:09 a.m.
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Edmonton Declines
Aug. 4, 2022 at 6:00 a.m.
#2
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Dumba and Barrie are susceptible to many of the same defensive challenges. Dumba is younger, and more physical, but also carries a substantially bigger cap hit. Adding Puljujarvi to the package exacerbates the challenges Edmonton is already facing. The Oilers are over the salary cap, and yet they still need to add contracts in order to fill their roster. Since Puljujarvi's cap hit is pretty reasonable considering what he provides, the wise play for Holland is to move Warren Foegele for a draft pick or a prospect, and then look to move Barrie for a slightly less expensive defense-first RHD. Dumba really is the sort of player the Oilers have to avoid at this point.
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Aug. 4, 2022 at 7:43 a.m.
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Minnesota declines. They have zero reason to take on a worse player and contract.
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Aug. 4, 2022 at 7:56 p.m.
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Quoting: uphere
Dumba and Barrie are susceptible to many of the same defensive challenges. Dumba is younger, and more physical, but also carries a substantially bigger cap hit. Adding Puljujarvi to the package exacerbates the challenges Edmonton is already facing. The Oilers are over the salary cap, and yet they still need to add contracts in order to fill their roster. Since Puljujarvi's cap hit is pretty reasonable considering what he provides, the wise play for Holland is to move Warren Foegele for a draft pick or a prospect, and then look to move Barrie for a slightly less expensive defense-first RHD. Dumba really is the sort of player the Oilers have to avoid at this point.


You clearly haven’t seen Dumba play for a few years!
Aug. 5, 2022 at 6:41 p.m.
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Quoting: MNBassman
You clearly haven’t seen Dumba play for a few years!


You clearly have not given any thought to all of the parameters that should be considered when contemplating a trade. The Oilers believe they have 3-4 seasons in which to contend for a Stanley Cup, so that 3rd round draft pick has no meaningful value for them. They are $6M over the salary cap, so they may have to start the next season with a 21-man roster in order to be cap compliant. Puljujarvi is one of four right handed forwards they have, Yamamoto and Ryan are the only others who play RW. The Oilers needs size up front and Puljujarvi is a big, strong man while Yamamoto and Ryan are not.

The trade proposal might provide Edmonton an upgraded top four group of d-men, but the cost would deplete an area of need and leave them unable to address the huge gap on RW. Dumba is a very good hockey player, but he's not worth that much.
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Aug. 6, 2022 at 8:31 a.m.
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You clearly have not given any thought to all of the parameters that should be considered when contemplating a trade. The Oilers believe they have 3-4 seasons in which to contend for a Stanley Cup, so that 3rd round draft pick has no meaningful value for them. They are $6M over the salary cap, so they may have to start the next season with a 21-man roster in order to be cap compliant. Puljujarvi is one of four right handed forwards they have, Yamamoto and Ryan are the only others who play RW. The Oilers needs size up front and Puljujarvi is a big, strong man while Yamamoto and Ryan are not.

The trade proposal might provide Edmonton an upgraded top four group of d-men, but the cost would deplete an area of need and leave them unable to address the huge gap on RW. Dumba is a very good hockey player, but he's not worth that much.


That has nothing to do with my comment! You compared Dumba’s defensive play to Barrie’s…Dumba is 10x the defensive player Barrie is! All of your other points are valid.
Aug. 6, 2022 at 4:43 p.m.
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That has nothing to do with my comment! You compared Dumba’s defensive play to Barrie’s…Dumba is 10x the defensive player Barrie is! All of your other points are valid.


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