you forgot to bring arguments to the table defending your opinion. why do you think these trades were bad and not making them would have been better? the only one i feel would have been good not to makes is the dach trade personally. would haved enjoyed that #13 pick.

Romanov was my favorite player, but getting such a high pick for him is GREAT value. Nazar vs. Dach will be an interesting comparison for years to come

You also can't really deal with Weber + Byron + Price on LTIR. The risk was too big that either Price or Byron need to be put on LTIR. Getting Dadonov was a needed move ; still better than dumping Weber with a pick.

Sure thing pal

Honestly, I'm still very happy with the Romanov trade for NYI. I'd do that 10 times out of 10.

You guys both have valid points.

DeBrincat got the 7th pick, the 39th pick and a 2024 3rd. Romanov and the 98th pick got Montreal 13th overall. The difference in talent between DeBrincat and Romanov is massive. You can’t criticize the return there unless Romanov takes a huge leap forward.

At the end of the day Lou overpaid cause Romanov may help him keep Sorokin happy. Montreal could easily defend that deal if not for the fact they may have brought in an even bigger question mark in Kirby Dach with that draft pick. Dach can’t finish or win face offs but is coming off a wrist injury. While some analytics models like him, the Couturier comparison the athletic made is insane. Couturier could do it all when he entered the league as a rookie. Dach hasn’t proven ****.

I like the player but how much more did Ottawa really give up for DeBrincat? That’s the real issue here.

Sure I don't disagree. But getting Romanov gives Dobson a potential lifetime defensive partner.

Debrincat comes in as a pending RFA that is about to get big money, that removes a lot of teams from the trade market. Dach is likely to be bridged at around 1.75-2.5? Anyone in the league can absorb that cap so Chiacgo likely played hard ball with him. I don't mind giving away 13OA for him but the 3rd grinds my gear a little as it was the first pick in the 3rd so basically a late 2nd... Any of Ty Nelson, Suzdalev or Kaplan would've been interesting at this spot.

OP states they're all **** without any lines of why so I assume it's true.

All that matters is what Dach does. if he becomes another KK, then yes, that was a bad trade for the final result. But if Dach becomes a 50-70pt centre for the Habs, this was a stroke of genius by HuGo. I mean what if Nazar is a bust? Would the rebuild been better off? No not really. A couple extra 3rd or 4th rounders isn't going to make or break the rebuild either. They took a risk and we don't know if it is going to pay off yet so we'll have to wait to know if it was a bad trade or not.

Getting rid of Weber's contract is amazing considering we got a good player in return in Dadanov who will be worth something at the TDL. With Prices health up in the air, no way Habs could risk going into future seasons with almost 20M in LTIR (Weber+Price). Imagine someone else like Gallagher got hurt and needed LTIR too! They had to do something to reduce the LTIR potential. Moving Weber for a 1 year player in Dadanov is perfect. It literally gave both teams exactly what they wanted. Had HUgO only moved Weber with nothing coming back, they would have had to add a pick to the trade. I'd say this was a better option considering the Habs aren't going to be that much better with Dadanov and they'll now get an asset back instead of losing an asset.

As for Romanov. I like the kid and he definitely was improving but I was getting major Alexei Emelin vibes from him. A good defensive dman who hits like a truck. While I think that was really a valuable asset like 10 years ago, now a days, is less valuable in the NHL. The fact that the Isles gave up the 13th OV pick was an offer Habs couldn't refuse. Romanov was NOT worth a 13th Ov pick at this point in his career. They overpaid and even if we liked Romanov, that is a price you have to just take. especially with Guhle and Harris coming up.

I don't think the Habs will be 1-3 bottom feeders with the lineup above or with the current actual team. They severely underperformed last year and it was a perfect storm of things that caused them to be that bad. They'll be a 5-10 team this year regardless of any of the moves they did so the rebuild is no worse off with these moves than without. It would take a miracle for the Habs to finish last in the league again this year. If they get Bedard/Michkov/Fantilli, it won't be because they were bottom feeders. It'll be because they won the lottery like NJ did this year to move up to 2nd.