What would the contract look like though? Ferraro would probably want 4-7m aav which could turn out bad for the team or him (maybe he signs 4x8, adds some offence and then regrets a 4m aav). Or he’s not worth 6.5m at 8 years and it causes a void within the team/ player relation due to expectations and criticism. Also the Sharks don’t have money problems in 4 years which is when his deal is done so why stress?

In 4 years only Karlsson, Hertl, and Couture will be under contract with presumably Meier. All (assuming Meier is under Tkachuks aav so let’s say 8m). Would be 35m in 4 years (Karlsson 1 year left) and we can also presume the NHL’s salary cap limit will be much different in 4 years. Let’s say Bordeleau and Eklund have amazing season and take up 10 more mil combined. That’s 45m with Ferraro needing a new deal.

Pretty sure they’re fine for now and you’re looking way to far ahead in terms of stressing a guys deal out. He wants to see if he can earn more money and the team wants to see if Ferraro can improve more or if he isn’t going to evolve much more.

Great step by the new GM to not sign someone to an 8 year deal.

He's got his work cut out, that's for sure. But, I've liked his all-around game thus far.

There's this thing called "bridge deal" -- which this by definition isn't, because a bridge deal bridges the gap between two halves of an eligible period, and this contract is a Bridge to Nowhere, i.e., free agency.

Mike Grier takes his first W!

I read "Yes but" and then a bunch of hypothesis to prove your point.

like any ones knows mario here lol

Hey, I live in San Jose and was at CVS the other day and they called out that a prescription was ready for a guy named Mario Ferraro. I stuck around for a couple minutes to see if it was him so I could have a chat with him...turns out it was someone else.

hahahaha it was worth a shot for sure!

This is a 4 year deal. In 4 years, if Vlasic isn't bought out he will be off the books. If he is bought out at some point before then, it will be $1.2M to $1.7M of cap hit, depending on when exactly he's bought out. Burns' retained salary will be off the books, Labanc's contract will have ended and, barring a resurgent season this year, he'll either be gone or making less.

Literally the only things on the books after this contract expires are 1 year of Couture, 1 year of Karlsson, 4 years of Hertl, and the final year ($1.67M) of Jones' buyout. Of course there will be other contracts signed in the meantime, but as it stands now they're not in too bad of a position cap-wise at that point. Hell, looking at his last few years, I wouldn't be remotely surprised if Karlsson's on Robidas Island (permanent LTIR) by then.

This is a fair contract. Ferraro has been playing minutes that are too difficult for him; if he starts playing easier minutes, he should be able to outperform the AAV.

Idk I feel like Couture and Hertl would beg to differ on that one

Sounds like MacKinnon vs Landeskog. The maturity level was apparent early on

Sharks made out on this one, hope Mario makes out on the next

Wouldn’t it be the same either way.

I can show you:

Eric Cernak to John Tavares. It’s all subjective opinion except I had an argument and the other was an unrelated, not equivalent example. Tavares is a 11m AAV superstar Center who had media circus hype through the roof. Ferraro is a top 4 23yo D in California. And my point of them having different external attitudes and personalities is more of a fact then opinion as it’s quite apparent that one is a quiet lead by example type and the other is a running a YouTube channel, eccentric personality? So I don’t see any real point in your comment. There is little relevance to using a JT leaving NY situation to Ferraro in resigning SJ.

Could Ferraro leave? 100%. But I am the only providing substantial points as opposed to “xyz player left his team so Ferraro will too”.

Man, when was the last time we say a 4 year 2nd contract handed at to a player coming off of a 3 year ELC?

it's just a risk they bear if something changes - which wouldn't have been an issue on a 2-3 year deal. that's all

it's just a risk they wouldn't bear on a 2-3 year deal is all... we've been surprised by UFA's on the market before, and he will be a UFA at the end of the deal... but clearly mike grier isn't worried

How does this connect to the Leafs and Sandin, hmm....

Logan is still the captain and has earned the right to keep the C imo. But if the C is ever available in SJ over the next few years for whatever reason I think Mario is one of the more obvious candidates.

Sharks are in the midst of a youth movement and Mario is at the forefront of that movement at age 23. Hertl is still “the guy” at forward. Logan is the 2-way guy. Timo is the scoring guy and Mario is the youth guy.

That said though, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Erik Karlsson get consideration if he can start to get healthy. Karlsson thrives on being thee guy.

Mario Ferraro, signed 4x$3.25M by SJ, is a defensive defenceman who has been deployed in a tough minute-munching top-pair role that he's maybe not suited for. #SJSharks pic.twitter.com/MTfJKbrdPX

— JFresh (@JFreshHockey) August 4, 2022

ehhhhhhhhhhhhh

Covering for a loose cannon like Brent Burns will do that. Burns’ turnover rate along with his offense only play forced Mario into some bad situations. I’ve never seen a shark invest the highest energy possible into every shift.

Mario’s drive and work ethic is second to none and i have watched hockey for over 25 years. He is an absolute beast.

1) Don't get the point about Cernak, I'm clearly missing something?
2) Tavares has a YT channel?

About f*cking time they reached a deal

Yea I was mainly talking about how you said "will to win" because the guys I mentioned have that big time. Especially Couture I mean his playoff points are wild. It wasn't that long ago that the Sharks were in the WCF. If they can actually get some good goaltending, and EK can bring his big time "I'm that guy" on the blue line (and stay healthy) I could see them pushing in the Pacific this season. I don't watch them enough but you've sold me on Mario.

Just sayin, Couture and Hertl are still beast mode players who certainly have a big time will to win. And if we're counting just will, I'd imagine Vlasic would rather block 100000 shots than never win a Cup, even if they're all with his face.