Drouin Fresh Start

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Created by: Wreckless

Team: 2022-23 Edmonton Oilers

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 4, 2022

Published: Aug. 4, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Most people who hate on Drouin have a massive misunderstanding of mental health issues. And I’m probably being too kind. The more likely argument is most probably have significant character flaws that they try and mask through their hate and their anger.
Drouin will likely strongly benefit from a fresh start. There’s very little risk on an expiring contract, and the upside could be huge for a team trying to win now.
Puljujarvi could also use a fresh start. Habs retain salary on Drouin to make it dollar for dollar.
Oilers rent before they buy. Same as they did with Kane. And Kulak.

Trades

EDM

Drouin, Jonathan ($2,500,000 retained)

MTL

Puljujärvi, Jesse

Buyouts

James Neal: $1,916,667
Andrej Sekera: $1,500,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Milan Lucic: $750,000 (12.5%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$82,500,000	$82,164,333	$896,000	$1,700,000	$335,667

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Draisaitl, Leon $8,500,000$8,500,000 C, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	McDavid, Connor $12,500,000$12,500,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Hyman, Zach $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 6
Drouin, Jonathan $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan $5,125,000$5,125,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 7	Kane, Evander $5,125,000$5,125,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 4
	Janmark, Mattias $1,250,000$1,250,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Yamamoto, Kailer $3,100,000$3,100,000 RW RFA - 2
Foegele, Warren $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Ryan, Derek $1,250,000$1,250,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Shore, Devin $850,000$850,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Nurse, Darnell $9,250,000$9,250,000 LD NMC UFA - 8	Barrie, Tyson $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Campbell, Jack $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 5
Kulak, Brett $2,750,000$2,750,000 LD/RD UFA - 4	Ceci, Cody $3,250,000$3,250,000 RD UFA - 3	Skinner, Stuart $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
Koekkoek, Slater $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Bouchard, Evan $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 1
Broberg, Philip $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) LD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Klefbom, Oscar $4,167,000$4,167,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1
		Smith, Mike $2,200,000$2,200,000 G UFA - 1

Aug. 4, 2022 at 4:26 p.m.

Shibbal18

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MTL adds

Aug. 4, 2022 at 4:28 p.m.

Boomer125

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How many "fresh starts" does this whiney unproductive forward really need? He certainly hasn't earned one

Aug. 4, 2022 at 4:32 p.m.

JaredOfLondon

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It doesnt matter if drouins issue is a broken leg or mental health, he still has no value as a trade piece.
Your weird rant and terrible justification doesnt change that

Aug. 4, 2022 at 4:35 p.m.

Taz

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Quoting: Boomer125

How many "fresh starts" does this whiney unproductive forward really need? He certainly hasn't earned one

He does not produce up to his 5.5 million salary. But leaving aside the money, he has a much higher ppg ratio than JP.

MTL need to add to complete this trade, factors are age and cost control.

Aug. 4, 2022 at 4:36 p.m.

Wreckless

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Wreckless

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Quoting: Taz

He does not produce up to his 5.5 million salary. But leaving aside the money, he has a higher ppg ratio than JP.

MTL need to add to complete this trade, factors are age and cost control.

I suggested Habs retaining $2.5mm to put him at a $3mm salary. Dollar for dollar trade.

Aug. 4, 2022 at 4:37 p.m.

Skyraider112

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Very presumptuous of you to think that people who don't like Drouin have significant character flaws... He has not been a valuable hockey player for numerous seasons. That means his trade value is low. He also carries a cap hit of 5.5 mil, which is high for a forward with his lack of production. Those are facts. It's unfortunate that he has been struggling with mental health issues but do not assert that the reason people aren't fond of him is because of that.

Aug. 4, 2022 at 4:39 p.m.

Wreckless

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Wreckless

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Quoting: Skyraider112

I didn’t say all. I stand by my opinion that it’s most.

Cap hit would be $3mm in my post.

Puljujarvi’s trade value is also low.

Aug. 4, 2022 at 4:41 p.m.

Skyraider112

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Quoting: Wreckless

I didn’t say all. I stand by my opinion that it’s most.

Cap hit would be $3mm in my post.

I'm not sure how you can be so certain that "most" people who don't like Drouin are doing it because they are terrible people? If you can show me some facts to back up your opinion then I could understand it. If not then I'm sitting here thinking you are just offended that people don't like Drouin period.

Aug. 4, 2022 at 4:45 p.m.

Wreckless

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Quoting: Skyraider112

Not “certain”. (I.e. the definition of an opinion). Feel free to read the comments on Drouin on this site, and the vitriol towards him, and come to your own conclusion. I stand by mine.

Aug. 4, 2022 at 4:45 p.m.

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Taz

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Quoting: Wreckless

I suggested Habs retaining $2.5mm to put him at a $3mm salary. Dollar for dollar trade.

Not enough, he is UFA after next season

Aug. 4, 2022 at 4:47 p.m.

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Wreckless

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Wreckless

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Quoting: Taz

Not enough, he is UFA after next season

So was Kane. And Kulak. Rent before you buy.
Drouin is a better player than Puljujarvi. Age is the reason why I wouldn’t suggest Edmonton needs to add. Realistically though, Puljujarvi is a UFA after this season also, if the Habs don’t want his contract set in arbitration. They would probably either agree to terms ahead of time or choose to not qualify him (making him a ufa).

Aug. 4, 2022 at 4:54 p.m.

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Taz

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Quoting: Wreckless

Drouin has better numbers, but he's not a better player. He isn't good defensively, cannot play physical and also he is susceptible to injury.
Also, Drouin is completely free at the end of the season while JP is not. JP is younger and still has a little ceiling margin.

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Aug. 4, 2022 at 4:57 p.m.

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titchy_jelly

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By the time you hang up we’ve already dropped him of at the airport for you

Aug. 4, 2022 at 4:58 p.m.

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Wreckless

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Quoting: Taz

Susceptible to injury, yes. But also the better player. Puljujarvi isn’t good defensively either. Nor is it fair to describe him as physical either.
Drouin has performed well twice in the playoffs. Puljujarvi never. Drouin’s speed would be a weapon on an already fast Oilers team.
People laughed at me for repeatedly suggesting Kulak would fetch a 2nd rounder from Holland, but that was bang on, and also ended up being an excellent trade for the Oilers.

Aug. 4, 2022 at 5:00 p.m.

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Wreckless

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Quoting: titchy_jelly

By the time you hang up we’ve already dropped him of at the airport for you

Not sure what that means.

Aug. 4, 2022 at 5:05 p.m.

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yycofred

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Quoting: Wreckless

What sideways metrics are you using to determine that Puljujarvi isn't good defensively?? Dive into that a little

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