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Firesale if Philly is out of a playoff spot near deadline

Created by: PrisonMike
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 4, 2022
Published: Aug. 4, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Philadelphia Flyers
Team Explanation
IF, and a big IF, Philly is fully healthy and they're badly out of a playoff spot under Torts, a firesale could happen and retooling isn't working.
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. Sillinger, Cole
  2. 2023 1st round pick (CBJ)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
IF Columbus is in a playoff spot.
CBJ
  1. Couturier, Sean
2.
PHI
  1. Primeau, Cayden [RFA Rights]
  2. Mesar, Filip
  3. Byron, Paul
  4. Allen, Jake
  5. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
Additional Details:
Given Price's injury history and recent issues, Hart might be the future goaltender. Byron and Allen traded purely for cap relief. IF Montreal is in a playoff spot near deadline.
MTL
  1. Hart, Carter
3.
PHI
  1. 2023 1st round pick (PIT)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Konecny, Travis
4.
PHI
  1. Bailey, Josh
  2. Wahlstrom, Oliver
  3. Räty, Aatu
  4. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
Additional Details:
Bailey moved for cap issues then bought out possibly.
NYI
  1. Provorov, Ivan
5.
PHI
  1. Kravtsov, Vitali
  2. 2023 1st round pick (NYR)
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (COL)
NYR
  1. Atkinson, Cam
6.
PHI
  1. Hamonic, Travis
  2. 2024 1st round pick (OTT)
Additional Details:
Lottery protected
OTT
  1. Ellis, Ryan ($2,000,000 retained)
Additional Details:
If he returns to top 4 form.
7.
PHI
  1. Ruzicka, Adam [RFA Rights]
  2. 2023 1st round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Farabee, Joel
8.
PHI
  1. Smith, Mike
  2. Foegele, Warren
  3. Broberg, Philip
  4. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
Smith Foegele cap dump
EDM
  1. Sanheim, Travis
9.
PHI
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
  2. 2025 2nd round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Laughton, Scott
10.
PHI
  1. McMichael, Connor
  2. Hagelin, Carl
  3. Jensen, Nick
  4. 2023 1st round pick (WSH)
Additional Details:
Jensen and Hagelin moved for cap relief.
WSH
  1. Deangelo, Anthony
Buyouts
  • Ilya Bryzgalov: $0
  • Oskar Lindblom: -$333,333
  • Josh Bailey: $2,666,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Ryan Ellis: $2,000,000 (32%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$55,447,857$295,000$3,925,000$27,052,143
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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van Riemsdyk, James
$7,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Hayes, Kevin
$7,142,857
C
NTC
UFA - 4
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Hagelin, Carl
$2,750,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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MacEwen, Zack
$925,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
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Deslauriers, Nicolas
$1,750,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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McMichael, Connor
$863,333
LW, C
RFA - 2
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Sillinger, Cole
$925,000
C
RFA - 2
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Foegele, Warren
$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Brink, Bobby
$925,000
RW
RFA - 2
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Frost, Morgan
$800,000
C
RFA - 1
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Wahlstrom, Oliver
$894,167
RW, C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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York, Cam
$880,833
LD
RFA - 1
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Ristolainen, Rasmus
$5,100,000
RD
UFA - 5
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Smith, Mike
$2,200,000
G
UFA - 1
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Seeler, Nick
$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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Jensen, Nick
$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Allen, Jake
$2,875,000
G
UFA - 1
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Broberg, Philip
$863,333
LD
RFA - 2
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Hamonic, Travis
$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Tippett, Owen
$1,500,000
RW
RFA - 2
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Braun, Justin
$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Aug. 4 at 7:04 p.m.
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Isles will pass, provorov does not return that.
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Aug. 4 at 7:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Warrior24
Isles will pass, provorov does not return that.


Not sure you could get a first and Bailey for Provorov lmao.
Aug. 4 at 7:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Warrior24
Isles will pass, provorov does not return that.


Remove Raty?
Aug. 4 at 7:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles5513
Not sure you could get a first and Bailey for Provorov lmao.


If the Isles want to sign Kadri, Bailey is likely on the move.
Aug. 4 at 7:07 p.m.
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Quoting: PrisonMike
Remove Raty?


Provorov is not a good fit for the Isles, just spent a 1st for Romanov who will be the 2LD. Isles have no interest in moving Raty or Wahlstrom.
Aug. 4 at 7:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles5513
Not sure you could get a first and Bailey for Provorov lmao.


Provorov should return at least 1st and a 2nd. But Walstrom and Raty have no business being in trades..
Aug. 4 at 7:08 p.m.
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Quoting: PrisonMike
If the Isles want to sign Kadri, Bailey is likely on the move.


That has nothing to do with this deal. It makes the isles worse and hurts their cap situation.
Aug. 4 at 7:09 p.m.
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The islanders do not move their 1st rounder for Provorov alone, let alone our best raw forward (not named Barzal) and a near PPG 19-year old center in LIIGA. Bailey could easily get dumped for a 3rd or so, if even that
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Aug. 4 at 7:09 p.m.
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Quoting: carts88
Provorov should return at least 1st and a 2nd. But Walstrom and Raty have no business being in trades..


Two years ago I would’ve agreed with you. Not now.
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Aug. 4 at 7:10 p.m.
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Dobson for Norris
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Quoting: PrisonMike
Remove Raty?


Wahlstrom and Raty then you could add Bode Wilde or a 2nd. Thats also the most that he would get. More likely just Bailey+First rounder
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Aug. 4 at 7:11 p.m.
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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
The islanders do not move their 1st rounder for Provorov alone, let alone our best raw forward (not named Barzal) and a near PPG 19-year old center in LIIGA. Bailey could easily get dumped for a 3rd or so, if even that


Josh Bailey is a cap dump but Ilya Mikheyev just got a four year deal for nearly 20 million dollars…. Wtf is going on
Aug. 4 at 7:11 p.m.
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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
Wahlstrom and Raty then you could add Bode Wilde or a 2nd. Thats also the most that he would get. More likely just Bailey+First rounder


Disagree. He’s not worth a first and Bailey. You can find a similar player on draft day.
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Aug. 4 at 7:12 p.m.
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That is a lot of IFs you have there. And yeesh do those trades suck.
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Aug. 4 at 7:12 p.m.
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Dobson for Norris
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Quoting: Isles5513
Disagree. He’s not worth a first and Bailey. You can find a similar player on draft day.


I 100% agree. I wouldnt pay that price. Unfortunately, id imagine that there are a few GMs who would pay that price for him. Lou wouldnt right now because we just got Romanov, but a team who is looking for a defenseman may pay that. Again, I dont think hes worth that much tho
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Aug. 4 at 7:13 p.m.
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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
The islanders do not move their 1st rounder for Provorov alone, let alone our best raw forward (not named Barzal) and a near PPG 19-year old center in LIIGA. Bailey could easily get dumped for a 3rd or so, if even that


Lol you don't think Provorov fetches a 1st round pick, being a top 4 dman who plays in all situations whose been on a bad team? I''l take out Walstrom and Raty, but I'm sure Lou would be interested in having a top 4 dcore in Pelech-Pulock, Provorov-Dobson, Romanov-Mayfield. Makes it one of the best in the league.
Aug. 4 at 7:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles5513
Josh Bailey is a cap dump but Ilya Mikheyev just got a four year deal for nearly 20 million dollars…. Wtf is going on


Not a cap dump sorry I meant moving money to accommodate Provorov, Dobson, Kadri.
Aug. 4 at 7:15 p.m.
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Quoting: PrisonMike
Lol you don't think Provorov fetches a 1st round pick, being a top 4 dman who plays in all situations whose been on a bad team? I''l take out Walstrom and Raty, but I'm sure Lou would be interested in having a top 4 dcore in Pelech-Pulock, Provorov-Dobson, Romanov-Mayfield. Makes it one of the best in the league.


Pretty sure that if Lou wants a d man he can just trade Pageau for Girard. IK it’s fair cause Avs fans keep asking for Pageau and a 2nd which probably means it’s fair one for one lmao.
Aug. 4 at 7:16 p.m.
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Quoting: PrisonMike
Not a cap dump sorry I meant moving money to accommodate Provorov, Dobson, Kadri.


Not directed at you alone. More about hockey fans in general.
Aug. 4 at 7:16 p.m.
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That’s a no from Columbus, even if they are in a playoff spot Sillinger isn’t getting traded, not to mention Columbus can’t even afford that trade cap wise.
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Aug. 4 at 7:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles5513
Pretty sure that if Lou wants a d man he can just trade Pageau for Girard. IK it’s fair cause Avs fans keep asking for Pageau and a 2nd which probably means it’s fair one for one lmao.


Pageau for Girard? no, just no
Aug. 4 at 7:17 p.m.
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Quoting: PrisonMike
Lol you don't think Provorov fetches a 1st round pick, being a top 4 dman who plays in all situations whose been on a bad team? I''l take out Walstrom and Raty, but I'm sure Lou would be interested in having a top 4 dcore in Pelech-Pulock, Provorov-Dobson, Romanov-Mayfield. Makes it one of the best in the league.


Don’t this the Isles will have the cap for it. Provorov gets a 1st absolutely, but the Isles will most like have less than 2M in space going into the season. I think I you would get a better return from a team that has more of a need and space.
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Aug. 4 at 7:17 p.m.
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Pageau for Girard? no, just no


I’m not the one who suggested it. Avs fans did. They want a second to do it but as soon as you say you would make the swap for a second it means you would do it straight up lol.
Aug. 4 at 7:23 p.m.
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Don’t this the Isles will have the cap for it. Provorov gets a 1st absolutely, but the Isles will most like have less than 2M in space going into the season. I think I you would get a better return from a team that has more of a need and space.


Tried to do a trade with Islanders, Provorov doesn't fit cap wise even if the Isles didn't sign Kadri.
Aug. 4 at 7:25 p.m.
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Tried to do a trade with Islanders, Provorov doesn't fit cap wise even if the Isles didn't sign Kadri.

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I see them moving on from Johnson first before Girard. Manson is really overpaid.
Aug. 4 at 7:30 p.m.
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No way CBJ are moving Sillinger. Take him out and you’ve got a deal for the picks, maybe send some money back like Bean. Or Voracek.
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