On the behalf of all BUF fans? Why would BUF pay to get Foegele? A player by the way EDM is desperate to get rid off.

Because he's a clear upgrade to over half a roster that isn't even close to sniffing a playoff birth after how long? At some point Buffalo will need to try to be relevant and make moves towards improving.

Because he's a clear upgrade to over half a roster that isn't even close to sniffing a playoff birth after how long? At some point Buffalo will need to try to be relevant and make moves towards improving.

Because he's a clear upgrade to over half a roster that isn't even close to sniffing a playoff birth after how long? At some point Buffalo will need to try to be relevant and make moves towards improving.

We have different definitions of both "clear" and "upgrade"

Yup. I view better players as upgrades if you don't then thats fine.

It appears that 1. You know next to nothing about the Sabres or 2. You vastly overestimate Warren Foegele’s ability. Or both.

Funny part is people get bent out of shape over this and completely miss the point I've tried to make. I want buffalo to stop accepting being terrible and make an effort to turn it around. Spending to the floor after failing the fans for how long now? I just don't get how fans find that OK. Buffalo fans should be up in arms. Look at what Ottawa has done they started rebuild after buffalo was already questionable and they are already a significantly better team adding quality players. Why can't buffalo start to go down that path? Instead spend to the floor and hope for lottery to solve everything? From everything I heard buffalo is an awesome place to live should be a fairly desirable market for players to go but it's the lack of effort from the organization to make it desirable. As much as I come off hating buffalo it's truly not even the case want to see steps towards being relevant.

What does adding better players have to do with adding another extra forward to get paid a lot to not play?

Funny part is people get bent out of shape over this and completely miss the point I've tried to make. I want buffalo to stop accepting being terrible and make an effort to turn it around. Spending to the floor after failing the fans for how long now? I just don't get how fans find that OK. Buffalo fans should be up in arms. Look at what Ottawa has done they started rebuild after buffalo was already questionable and they are already a significantly better team adding quality players. Why can't buffalo start to go down that path? Instead spend to the floor and hope for lottery to solve everything? From everything I heard buffalo is an awesome place to live should be a fairly desirable market for players to go but it's the lack of effort from the organization to make it desirable. As much as I come off hating buffalo it's truly not even the case want to see steps towards being relevant.

If there's all this good stuff still out there for free, you really got to be wondering why a team is paying Edmonton for Foegele.

On the behalf of all BUF fans? Why would BUF pay to get Foegele? A player by the way EDM is desperate to get rid off.

Because he's a clear upgrade to over half a roster that isn't even close to sniffing a playoff birth after how long? See below which half of the roster is he better than? At some point Buffalo will need to try to be relevant and make moves towards improving. In case you missed the point let me put some data on @sabresparaavida comment, see below!

Forwards on the Sabres who outproduced Foegele on a ppg basis last year:
Tage Thompson
Skinner
Tuch
Okposo
Cozens
Oloffson
Asplund
Mitts
Hinostroza
Girgensons (barely, but he also paced for more goals)
Krebs
That’s 11 forwards, and with Quinn and JJP ready to make the jump after dominating the AHL last year, that would put him at the 14th forward position, just over Bjork. I have posted the information probably a dozen times, but Oiler ACGM's still think Foegele could crack the Sabre line up.[/quote] Foegele would not make the Sabre line up.

$2,750,000 until 2023-24 (UFA)
37 Warren Foegele L 82 12 14 26 26/82 = 0.317 ppg

@Timmah007 Which one of those four LW do you see Warren replacing?
Every one has more pp/g than he:
53 Jeff Skinner L 80 33 30 63 63/80 = 0.788 ppg
71 Victor Olofsson L 72 20 29 49 49/72 = 0.681 ppg
74 Rasmus Asplund L 80 8 19 27 27/80 = 0.338 ppg
28 Zemgus Girgensons L 56 10 8 18 18/56 = 0.321 ppg
He does not score well so he is not going to knock out Olofsson nor Skinner.
He is paid much more than Girgensons or Asplund who PK which he does not.

He does not play center so he will not replace Thompson, Krebs, Cozens nor Mittelstadt:
72 Tage Thompson R 78 38 30 68 68/78 = 0.872 ppg
37 Casey Mittelstadt C 40 6 13 19 19/40 = 0.48 ppg
19 Peyton Krebs C 48 7 15 22 22/48 = 0.46 ppg
24 Dylan Cozens C 79 13 25 25/79 = 0.317 ppg

He certainly will not replace Tuch, Quinn, Hinostroza or Okposo at RW:
89 Alex Tuch R 50 12 26 38 38/50 = 0.760 ppg
21 Kyle Okposo R 74 21 24 45 45/74 =0.608 ppg
29 Vinny Hinostroza RW 62 13 12 25 25/62 = 0.403 ppg

@Funksoljah I just read Timmah007 posts and came across your fun fact that Foegele had the worst +/- among all Oiler skaters.
More rational why he would not find a spot in the Sabre line up.

Think I listed four players yesterday that foegele can easily replace would like to have an actually civil talk about this but it's been made clear by the reporting that the fans aren't even open minded enough to have a conversation. Disagree equals reporting kinda sad. Good luck buffalo

Which players?

Milano and Kessel are one-dimensional, I don't see them as good fits for Edmonton.

I doubt they trade Barrie.

I'd do Foegele + 1st <> future considerations.

Leafs took on 2 years of Matt Murray at 4.7 for a 3rd no shot the oilers will give you a 1st for 2 years at 2.75 for warren.