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Sandin Kadri Milano

Created by: ALjet12
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 5, 2022
Published: Aug. 5, 2022
Team: 2022-23 New York Islanders
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Romanov, Alexander3$2,200,000
Sandin, Rasmus4$4,125,000
Dobson, Noah3$5,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kadri, Nazem6$7,000,000
Milano, Sonny1$2,000,000
Trades
1.
NYI
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (MTL)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (COL)
MTL
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony
2.
NYI
  1. Sandin, Rasmus [RFA Rights]
TOR
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (MTL)
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (NYI)
3.
NYI
    ARI
    1. Bailey, Josh
    2. Bellows, Kieffer [RFA Rights]
    3. 2024 2nd round pick (COL)
    Buyouts
    • Rick DiPietro: $0
    Buried
    • Richard Pánik: $250,000 ($1,375,000)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
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    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$82,500,000$82,489,963$245,796$1,287,500$10,037
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
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    Nelson, Brock
    $6,000,000
    C, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
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    Barzal, Mathew
    $7,000,000
    C
    UFA - 1
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    Wahlstrom, Oliver
    $894,167
    RW, C
    RFA - 1
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    Lee, Anders
    $7,000,000
    LW, C
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Kadri, Nazem
    $7,000,000
    C
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    UFA - 7
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    Palmieri, Kyle
    $5,000,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
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    Parise, Zach
    $750,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
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    Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
    $5,000,000
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Milano, Sonny
    $2,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    Martin, Matt
    $1,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
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    Cizikas, Casey
    $2,500,000
    C
    UFA - 5
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    Clutterbuck, Cal
    $1,750,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    Pelech, Adam
    $5,750,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 7
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    Pulock, Ryan
    $6,150,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 8
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    Sorokin, Ilya
    $4,000,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Sandin, Rasmus
    $4,125,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
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    Dobson, Noah
    $5,000,000
    RD
    RFA - 3
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    Varlamov, Semyon
    $5,000,000
    G
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    UFA - 1
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    Romanov, Alexander
    $2,200,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 3
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    Mayfield, Scott
    $1,450,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    Aho, Sebastian
    $825,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
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    Johnston, Ross
    $1,100,000
    LW
    UFA - 4

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    Aug. 5 at 2:08 p.m.
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    Isles5513
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    I like Sandin and Milano. I don’t c the point in adding Kadri if they have to give up assets to clear cap space.
    Aug. 5 at 2:09 p.m.
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    Montreal accepts. Assuming Habs can find a taker for any of its forward contracts, I can't imagine they wouldn't make this trade.
    Aug. 5 at 2:10 p.m.
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    Leafs aren't trading Sandin - especially for that extremely underwhelming package
    Aug. 5 at 2:12 p.m.
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    Quoting: G0_Leafs_GO
    Leafs aren't trading Sandin - especially for that extremely underwhelming package


    Then try get more his offersheet comes in at a second round pick
    Aug. 5 at 2:19 p.m.
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    Quoting: HabsRafiki
    Montreal accepts. Assuming Habs can find a taker for any of its forward contracts, I can't imagine they wouldn't make this trade.


    They wouldn’t do this trade because no one would take any contracts back, teams will know we have to clear cap to be cap compliant. Seems hard already to move someone to make some room for Dach
    Secondly, why trade future when we are rebuilding ? Doesn’t make sense
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    Aug. 5 at 2:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: HabsRafiki
    Montreal accepts. Assuming Habs can find a taker for any of its forward contracts, I can't imagine they wouldn't make this trade.


    No they wouldn't.

    AB is a career sub .5 ppg player and barely one over the last 2 years. He doesnt move the needle.

    He is sub 6 foot and sub 190lb and management has talked multiple times about making the roster bigger he doesnt fit that remotely.

    Hes 25 hes not a prospect anymore this is what he is. Hes not a materially improvement on most of pur wing options in the top 6

    The habs arent giving what will likely be a early 2nd in a trade for a non impact player
    Aug. 5 at 2:46 p.m.
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    Quoting: Black61
    No they wouldn't.

    AB is a career sub .5 ppg player and barely one over the last 2 years. He doesnt move the needle.

    He is sub 6 foot and sub 190lb and management has talked multiple times about making the roster bigger he doesnt fit that remotely.

    Hes 25 hes not a prospect anymore this is what he is. Hes not a materially improvement on most of pur wing options in the top 6

    The habs arent giving what will likely be a early 2nd in a trade for a non impact player


    If you look at Beauvillier or even Barzal’s production over the past four years then you wouldn’t be surprised Trotz was fired. Players were willing to put up with his system when they were winning games. Unfortunately his system requires some combination of Pelech, Toews and Leddy. As soon as they started losing he got the boot.

    So I’m not sure calling Beauvillier “a sub six forward” and a “non impact player” is fair to him. Beau proved his worth in the playoffs and I expect a return to form next year under Lambert who seems like he is way less rigid than Trotz is. Everyone in the NYI organization loves Lambert for a reason.
    Aug. 5 at 3:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    If you look at Beauvillier or even Barzal’s production over the past four years then you wouldn’t be surprised Trotz was fired. Players were willing to put up with his system when they were winning games. Unfortunately his system requires some combination of Pelech, Toews and Leddy. As soon as they started losing he got the boot.

    So I’m not sure calling Beauvillier “a sub six forward” and a “non impact player” is fair to him. Beau proved his worth in the playoffs and I expect a return to form next year under Lambert who seems like he is way less rigid than Trotz is. Everyone in the NYI organization loves Lambert for a reason.


    He has never in 6 seasons put up 50 points or even a 50 point pace. He has been sub .5 ppg in 2 of the last 4 seasons. Hes a 35-45 point player. The habs in a rebuild dont need that.

    The habs arent trading assets for middle of the road players on meh deals when there are free options. We literally got pitlick who had more points than AB fpr 1.1 million, sonny milano can likely be had for less than 2.
    Aug. 5 at 3:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: Black61
    He has never in 6 seasons put up 50 points or even a 50 point pace. He has been sub .5 ppg in 2 of the last 4 seasons. Hes a 35-45 point player. The habs in a rebuild dont need that.

    The habs arent trading assets for middle of the road players on meh deals when there are free options. We literally got pitlick who had more points than AB fpr 1.1 million, sonny milano can likely be had for less than 2.


    Never said you should trade for him. Just said you mischaracterized his production.
    Aug. 5 at 3:02 p.m.
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    Quoting: Black61
    He has never in 6 seasons put up 50 points or even a 50 point pace. He has been sub .5 ppg in 2 of the last 4 seasons. Hes a 35-45 point player. The habs in a rebuild dont need that.

    The habs arent trading assets for middle of the road players on meh deals when there are free options. We literally got pitlick who had more points than AB fpr 1.1 million, sonny milano can likely be had for less than 2.


    Wouldn’t shock me if Milano to NY ends up being a done deal. His dad has been a season ticket holder for decades and he would be a perfect fit if they end up trading Beauvillier anyway.
    Aug. 5 at 3:18 p.m.
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    Never said you should trade for him. Just said you mischaracterized his production.


    Have I? Most guys who are better than his average shpw atleast for a season but he never has. After a certaon point you are what you are
    Aug. 5 at 3:22 p.m.
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    Quoting: Black61
    Have I? Most guys who are better than his average shpw atleast for a season but he never has. After a certaon point you are what you are


    He’s shown it in the post season. Pageau’s regular season numbers r mid too but he showed up when it mattered in both NY and in Ottawa 🤷‍♂️
    Aug. 5 at 3:25 p.m.
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    Since MTL is not in a position to trade assets to dump their players (Hoffman, Armia, etc.), they don't have the cap space for it.
    Aug. 5 at 3:36 p.m.
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    If youre going to give Sandin 4M+ then you might as well offersheet him and save yourself that 3rd round pick. TOR cant match something like that without significant roster changes

    If you pay more than a 2nd in a trade then you should be able to sign him for cheaper
    Aug. 5 at 3:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    He’s shown it in the post season. Pageau’s regular season numbers r mid too but he showed up when it mattered in both NY and in Ottawa 🤷‍♂️


    His 82 game average in the post season is 48 points and his best playoffs was a 56 point pace in less than 20 games. Thats a hot couple weeks at best
    Aug. 5 at 6:11 p.m.
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    You're not getting MTL 2023 2nd let alone another one as well
    Aug. 5 at 6:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: ALjet12
    Then try get more his offersheet comes in at a second round pick


    LOL. I've heard that line on this site so many times to justify a bad return for sandin... If he was going to get offer sheeted it would happen already.
     
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