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TDL Barabanov

Created by: earl08
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 6, 2022
Published: Aug. 6, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Colorado Avalanche
Trades
1.
COL
  1. Barabanov, Alexander ($1,250,000 retained)
SJS
  1. Kaut, Martin
  2. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$80,765,000$25,000$3,562,500$1,735,000
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Landeskog, Gabriel
$7,000,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 7
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MacKinnon, Nathan
$6,300,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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Rantanen, Mikko
$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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Lehkonen, Artturi
$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
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Newhook, Alex
$908,333
C, LW
RFA - 1
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Nichushkin, Valeri
$6,125,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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Barabanov, Alexander
$1,250,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
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Meyers, Ben
$912,500
LW, C
RFA - 1
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Compher, J.T.
$3,500,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 1
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Cogliano, Andrew
$1,250,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Helm, Darren
$1,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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O'Connor, Logan
$1,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Toews, Devon
$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Makar, Cale
$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 5
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Georgiev, Alexandar
$3,400,000
G
UFA - 3
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Byram, Bowen
$894,167
LD
RFA - 1
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Manson, Josh
$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
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Francouz, Pavel
$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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Girard, Samuel
$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
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Johnson, Erik
$6,000,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Hunt, Brad
$762,500
LD
UFA - 2
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Maltsev, Mikhail
$800,000
LW
RFA - 1
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MacDermid, Kurtis
$987,500
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 2

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Aug. 6 at 7:37 p.m.
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Why is Barabanov worth this much?
Aug. 6 at 7:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Jacko
Why is Barabanov worth this much?


For answers, seek Coleman and Hagel. Thank you come again!
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Aug. 6 at 7:51 p.m.
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Quoting: earl08
For answers, seek Coleman and Hagel. Thank you come again!


Both were on pace for almost 30 goals when traded. Hagel is like 21 on top of that. Thx for the reply anyhow
Aug. 6 at 7:52 p.m.
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Yzerman would never
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Quoting: Jacko
Both were on pace for almost 30 goals when traded. Hagel is like 21 on top of that.


And that’s why Hagel got two firsts
Aug. 6 at 7:58 p.m.
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
And that’s why Hagel got two firsts


I guess if Barabanov scores on a 30 pace then he’s worth what Hagel or even what Coleman got. I don’t see the comp.
Aug. 6 at 7:59 p.m.
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go Sharks go
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Sharks would definitely accept
Aug. 6 at 8:23 p.m.
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This ain’t it chief.
Barabanov only has 11 more career goals than Kaut ..
Aug. 6 at 8:42 p.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
This ain’t it chief.
Barabanov only has 11 more career goals than Kaut ..


Barabanov is a playmaker not a scorer. And trust me, hes vastly better than Kaut at that.
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Aug. 6 at 9:07 p.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
This ain’t it chief.
Barabanov only has 11 more career goals than Kaut ..


How I know he’s worth a ton more is I’ve never heard of a Kaut until I looked him up. Depth forward at his best. Barabanov has played top 6 in San Jose and played well.
Aug. 6 at 9:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Jacko
Both were on pace for almost 30 goals when traded. Hagel is like 21 on top of that. Thx for the reply anyhow


Quoting: Jacko
I guess if Barabanov scores on a 30 pace then he’s worth what Hagel or even what Coleman got. I don’t see the comp.


It’s comparing apples and oranges. Different play styles. Hagel was nothing until this season. Coleman was for his physical play. Barabanov is a playmaker who is on a cheap deal this year and next year. I wouldn’t take anything less than this for him honestly. That’s a very late 1st and anything less he’s more valuable to San Jose being on the team next year.
Aug. 6 at 9:13 p.m.
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So COL can get a 1st for Compher with this logic.
Aug. 6 at 10:48 p.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
This ain’t it chief.
Barabanov only has 11 more career goals than Kaut ..


Spent a few productive years in KHL. Is older and probably more trusted by the coach. At $1.25M for two years, its exactly what the Avs need, assuming they don't see Kaut as a fit
Aug. 6 at 11:04 p.m.
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Quoting: glarson17
How I know he’s worth a ton more is I’ve never heard of a Kaut until I looked him up. Depth forward at his best. Barabanov has played top 6 in San Jose and played well.


Top 6 on a bottom 10 team last year isn’t saying much
Aug. 6 at 11:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Xqb15a
So COL can get a 1st for Compher with this logic.


Compher: salary x3, guaranteed only one year, best season 33pts. Barabanov superior in all three areas.
Aug. 6 at 11:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Kjell_Forsman
Barabanov is a playmaker not a scorer. And trust me, hes vastly better than Kaut at that.


Kaut, for some reason despite looking like an NHL player, hasn't had a chance in COL. In SJ, would have room to grow, is younger and cheaper. I see a good fit for both teams.
Aug. 7 at 12:53 a.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
Top 6 on a bottom 10 team last year isn’t saying much


I'm not saying he would be top 6 on Colorado, that would obviously been stupid. my point is he played well and didn't look out of place on the sharks top line with Hertl and Meier. he's no slouch of a player.
Aug. 7 at 1:25 a.m.
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Quoting: earl08
Kaut, for some reason despite looking like an NHL player, hasn't had a chance in COL. In SJ, would have room to grow, is younger and cheaper. I see a good fit for both teams.


I agree. Barabanov needs the right coach and system, though. He was terrible in Toronto because the coaches never gave him a shot. We had poor forward depth so he was given a shot right away with Hertl and has thrived.
Aug. 7 at 3:20 a.m.
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Compher: salary x3, guaranteed only one year, best season 33pts. Barabanov superior in all three areas.

Yeah including being older, with less career production what a great way to spend the only draft pick the Avs have in the first 5 rounds of the 22 and 23 draft years on a 28yr old that has a 46 CF -7.5xGD. I get the cap hit but at some point the Avs have got to fill some spots in the bottom 6 with some homegrown cheap talent, I mean come on they QO’d Bowers and haven’t even given him a single game.
 
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