It's pretty obvious NJ isn't gonna re-sign Severson now. The Canucks aren't gonna give up a top 6 winger with control for a pending UFA

Canucks pass, we aren't in position to move a top 6 winger for a pending ufa

Let's say it came with an extension, happy? I've seen this trade posted by Vancouver fans a few times

Why are we trading away our strength in RHD to just add scoring to the 3rd line?

We didn't suck last year because we didn't score goals, we sucked because we gave up too many.

I get trading Severson at the deadline if we are out by more than 4-5pts (depending on how many teams we have to hop and how good the price is), but for now it doesn't seem to make sense.

would depend on the extension, it would have to be as efficient as Garland's which i have serve doubts it would be

Four years of Garland is better than one year of Severson. The Canucks are in a position to extend Severson, the Devils are not. The team is better in the long term for having done this.

This is what all Devs fans should be saying. One of the best RHDs in the league right now, lets go move the vet for a winger (who I like) which we have too many of right now. Makes no sense.
Any movement with Severson at the TDL should go for a pkg to get someone like Meier or similar.

So then what about a guaranteed sign and trade? I don't necessarily think we need Garland anymore but I think that's relatively fair? If anything about Canucks would have to add a tiny bit.

Severson is absolutely not one of the best RHDs in the league, he's the third best RHD on the team. I'd be much more hesitant to trade Severson if we didn't have Marino. Add to that that our defensive issues last year were greatly exacerbated by our shoddy goaltending. Then there's the issue of contracts, Severson won't be a Devil in a year but Garland would be a Devil for four. This is a team with insane forward depth for the next few years.

But I also don't see the Canucks doing that straight up either, I don't know why Severson would go there instead of hitting free agency without them overpaying.

That isn't what he meant by Severson being one of the best RHDs, I believe he meant the corps of the three 3RHD combined as a unit.

That still works against his point. If the Devils RHD corps is so strong, then it lowers Severson's value to the Devils compared to other teams. Add in the contract situations of said RHD corps, and trading Severson seems like the obvious play

I have to kindly disagree.

The first point being, I think it's an unfair trade to VAN. If you want to say it comes with an extension, and with that VAN has to blow him out of the water to do so...I mean honestly, why would Severson give them a discount?

Second point being, we have plenty of wingers we are looking to get time, namely Holtz. Why are we adding more wingers now rather than having that as a strength with no real direct true NHL RHD ready there? It's harder to hide defensemen than forwards.

I'm of the side I'd rather have a strong RHD (which I still don't get your point how that LOWERS Severson's value), and be more comfortable in the D zone than throw Reilly Walsh out there without there being an injury to cause that. If my wingers are Bratt, Palat, Sharangovich, Mercer, Holtz...I'm fine.

To your point about Walsh, that could easily be Smith or a UFA in that spot. As for what I meant by it lowering Severson's value, think about it like money. If you have $50, $10 is much more expendable than if you have $30.

Correct but I did mess it up "We have one of the best RHDs in the league". Sorry bout that and thx 1317!
Now to pretzl's point: I didn't even say it, its a story out there now, and I agree with it! Its balanced: Vets/newbies, defensive no pts shutdown guys and rovers, your point makes no sense. A RHD on a great contract say for the TDL has stupid kinds of value. And Garland? Although a good player, we have too many fwds as it is. If we are shopping for a fwd its a guy one notch below Johnny Hockey/Matt Tkachuk., Its not Garland! Put a pkg together with Sevs and I am interested in that. I am not so sure Severson is even moved tbh. I'd honestly say no thx to Van. Garland is nice but move some of the depth for him and sure maybe.

I just can't agree with that analogy. I'm fine trading Severson at the deadline, but not now. We are already chuck full of forwards. I mean, you acquire Garland to play him on the 3rd line anyway. As I see it, a 3rd line RHD of Severson's abilities be of greater marginal difference to Walsh than Garland getting 3rd line minutes (as opposed to top 6) in VAN vs Tatar on 3rd line. Yes, Garland is far better than Tatar, but Severson is even that much better than a rookie in Walsh.

Your argument fell short when you failed to do any research on Conor Garland by calling him a third line caliber player. Name 10 third line players that scored around 50 even strength points this past season

I'm not calling him a 3rd line caliber...if you look at how he setup his roster he's putting him on the 3rd line.

Actually read what I said there.

Even then, he will still likely out produce most of your top 6 even while playing limited minutes. He’s just super flexible like that

Okay, I'll go slow with this one as you want to be very defensive on it. Do you believe there is a larger marginal difference between...pick any other top 9 forward the Devils would likely throw in there...over Severson over a rookie defenseman, or even Brendan Smith?

Severson is a more complete dman than Marino has been up until now. I would be very surprised if Severson, who has been our TOI leader for 5-6 years, drops to 3RD. That would be a significant fall-off in one year (a contract year, nonetheless)

He was unquestionably our best overall dman last season, especially at ES (Hamilton better on PP, Siegenthaler better on PK).

Let it go, its a carousel you won't get off of, trust me!

Exactly, and if he slots down to help a young LHD then so be it. Let's stop trades with Van, we are not a good fit regardless if they think so!