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Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 8, 2022
Published: Aug. 8, 2022
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L'année 2022 sera la dernière où l'équipe des Canadiens de Montréal finira au bas du classement général, pour peu à peu se hisser vers les sommets d'une gloire prochaine.

La fin de saison 2022-2023 aura eu son lot de surprise à débuter par la chute au classement des Panthers de la Floride qui donnera le 6e choix total du repêchage (ayant monté de 10 rangs). Montréal de son côté gagnera le 2e rang de l'encan malgré avoir terminé au 28e rang de la ligue. L'arrivée d'Adam Fantilli et Dalibor Dvorsky pourra compenser le fait de ne pas avoir remporté la loterie Connor Bedard, mais surtout viendra ajouter aux Dach, Caufield, Suzuki, Slafkovky ou autres jeunes d'un des meilleurs bassins d'espoir dans la NHL.

La plus grosse surprise durant ce repêchage sera sans doute la transaction qui envoie Carey Price en Arizona pour libérer de la masse salariale, mais également pour tourner un chapitre sur la précédente époque de l'organisation. Ayant lors de la précédente date limite des transactions transigé Christian Dvorak et Chris Wideman pour que Los Angeles poursuivent en séries finales en retour d'un autre superbe jeune espoir Rasmus Kupari, Kent Hughes aura su libérer suffisamment d'argent pour attirer le joueur étoile Ryan O'Reilly ainsi que son coéquipier Ivan Barbashev après que les blues furent encore une fois sortie de manière expéditive en première ronde.

La saison 2023 avec Karel Vejmelka et Samuel Montembeault comme duo devant une telle formation s'annonce avec des parties enlevantes et surtout une base partisane enfin comblée par l'avenir.

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The year 2022 will be the last year in which the Montreal Canadiens team will finish at the bottom of the overall standings, only to gradually rise to the heights of future glory.

The end of the 2022-2023 season will have had its share of surprises starting with the Florida Panthers falling in the standings with the win of the 6th overall draft pick ( 10 spots rise) . Montreal on its side will win the 2nd place of the auction despite having finished 28th in the league. The arrival of Adam Fantilli and Dalibor Dvorsky will make up for not winning the Connor Bedard lottery, but will also add to the Dach, Caufield, Suzuki, Slafkovky and other youngsters from one of the best prospect pools in the NHL.

The biggest surprise during this draft will probably be the transaction that sends Carey Price to Arizona to free up payroll, but also to turn a chapter on the previous era of the organization. Having dealt Christian Dvorak and Chris Wideman at the previous trade deadline to send Los Angeles to the playoffs in return for another superb young prospect, Rasmus Kupari, Kent Hughes was able to free up enough money to lure star player Ryan O'Reilly and teammate Ivan Barbashev after the Blues were once again rushed out of the first round.

The 2023 season with Karel Vejmelka and Samuel Montembeault as the duo in front of such a lineup is shaping up to be a great one with some exciting games and a partisan base that is finally being filled with the future.

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Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,250,000
8$7,250,000
2$1,125,000
3$925,000
3$2,225,000
3$775,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$5,125,000
7$9,525,000
7$7,725,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Dvorsky, Dalibor
3$950,000
Fantilli, Adam
3$950,000
Trades
1.
2.
MTL
  1. Grudinin, Vladimir [Reserve List]
  2. 2023 6th round pick (CHI)
3.
MTL
  1. Shalunov, Maxim [Reserve List]
  2. 2024 6th round pick (CHI)
4.
ARI
  1. Price, Carey
  2. 2023 4th round pick (MTL)
  3. 2024 1st round pick (MTL)
  4. 2025 3rd round pick (MTL)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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Logo of the MTL
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Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the MTL
2024
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Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the EDM
2025
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Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
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23$83,500,000$81,941,666$1,170,000$4,195,000$1,558,334
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$7,725,000$7,725,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
$9,525,000$9,525,000
C
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,250,000$7,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
Fantilli, Adam
$950,000$950,000
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Dvorsky, Dalibor
$950,000$950,000
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,250,000$3,250,000
C, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
$2,225,000$2,225,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$5,125,000$5,125,000
RD
UFA - 8
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$2,725,000$2,725,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$2,650,000$2,650,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,125,000$1,125,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2

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Aug. 8, 2022 at 5:17 a.m.
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No to the Arizona deal
Aug. 8, 2022 at 7:17 a.m.
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Gonna cost you a whole lot more than that to move Hoffman's salary.
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Aug. 8, 2022 at 7:46 a.m.
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Everyone except MTL rejects these trades. Canes aren’t giving up a good prospect to take on Armia, who they can’t afford. Dump him elsewhere.
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Aug. 8, 2022 at 8:21 a.m.
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Kings decline, they don't need any more centers
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Aug. 8, 2022 at 8:23 a.m.
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Quoting: BlackhawksReboot
Gonna cost you a whole lot more than that to move Hoffman's salary.


No just Fans
Coaches see 49.5% of all hoffmans production coming from Power Play
Even if he does suck hypothetically there's not another person i've found to match that stat alone.
PP players usually score 35-40% at best of their offense on PP alone

MTL is actually great with keeping that as he earned his pay unlike 8/10 players last year
Im more so worried about moving Savard.Armia and Allen (hate to lose him for nothing as a UFA as he wont re-sign )
Armia we cant move IMO nor is he bad enough to just yet but he has to step it up
Savard needs to go he's a #4/5 D good behind multiple leaders as depth and we just risk diminishing his value too much
Allen should go to PIT in my opinion he'll thrive there
Aug. 8, 2022 at 8:28 a.m.
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Kings decline, they don't need any more centers



Given no one's jumped on Walker all summer i'll bet LAK pays to move him similar to VGK did Pacioretty
Aug. 8, 2022 at 8:46 a.m.
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Canes aren’t interested in Armia
Aug. 8, 2022 at 9:07 a.m.
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No just Fans
Coaches see 49.5% of all hoffmans production coming from Power Play
Even if he does suck hypothetically there's not another person i've found to match that stat alone.
PP players usually score 35-40% at best of their offense on PP alone


50% of your points coming from PP is not a GOOD thing. That basically means he is dead weight at even strength. Hawks are not taking on salary for free.
Aug. 8, 2022 at 9:22 a.m.
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Hard pass on Joel Armia, he makes 3 x more than he should
Aug. 8, 2022 at 9:52 a.m.
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50% of your points coming from PP is not a GOOD thing. That basically means he is dead weight at even strength. Hawks are not taking on salary for free.


Lets look at the numbers

430/612 that means Hoffman scores 70% of all games he's in
243/430 that means Hoffman scores on PP 49.5% of the times he scores total.

His Defensive stats are above average, so are his Point shares and most stats.
His Turnovers used to be a concern sure when teams were unwise enough to play him top 6
But once they put him back on 3rd line his turnovers returned to his career normal 45-55 a year
That said his Takeaways were on Par early on in his career when he played full seasons but in his later years dropped off

My point is no one complains about Hoffman they complain about his wife labeling him for something he didnt do cause he wouldnt leave her.
I remember before she showed the world who she is and Hoffman was one of the top up and coming names OTT assumed they'd build on (Karlsson.Stone,Hoffman,ext)
Then overnight he became public enemy number 1

It always shocks me guys who actually did stuff like beat or rape women get a pass and are cheered
But Hoffman who did nothing but refuse to leave his wife will always be targeted even if he scored 100 goals in 100 games people would complain
Aug. 8, 2022 at 9:57 a.m.
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Hard pass on Joel Armia, he makes 3 x more than he should


I cant argue that anymore then i can argue KK contract got similar treatment lol
We all like to overpay players based on what we think they'll do , not what they've actually done
Aug. 8, 2022 at 10:10 a.m.
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I cant argue that anymore then i can argue KK contract got similar treatment lol
We all like to overpay players based on what we think they'll do , not what they've actually done


Difference is... KK is worth his 4.82. Armia isn't worth his 3.4
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Aug. 8, 2022 at 10:25 a.m.
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Difference is... KK is worth his 4.82. Armia isn't worth his 3.4


Neither are worth that
Trust me i know both players values by now
KK at best is worth around 3.5-3.75m in todays market based on what he's done
You're trying to assert i should pay for what he hasnt done yet, i decline

3 coaches in 2 leagues in his first few years had issues with KK Attitude when his dad gets in his ear about him being underutilized.
You just wait, you'll give him what he asked for in top minutes and he'll lose the spot based on his play then get sour about it driving your coaches nuts.
He's Entitled and thinks he's better then he is but ALWAYS struggled when you took Lehkonen and Armia away from him
He's very picky about who he can play with
Aug. 8, 2022 at 10:35 a.m.
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Neither are worth that
Trust me i know both players values by now
KK at best is worth around 3.5-3.75m in todays market based on what he's done
You're trying to assert i should pay for what he hasnt done yet, i decline

3 coaches in 2 leagues in his first few years had issues with KK Attitude when his dad gets in his ear about him being underutilized.
You just wait, you'll give him what he asked for in top minutes and he'll lose the spot based on his play then get sour about it driving your coaches nuts


Kotkaniemi's play under Rod has been excellent. Setting new career highs in point pace and goals. He's going to get a chance to play 2C. Trust me, he's worth it. At 22 years old, he's already got cup finals experience, he's already shown he can be a key playoff producer, he's already showing signs of being a long-term middle-six C, and he's still very very young. He's going to be fine. He's also now not learning from some old french-speaking dinosaur like Ducharme. He's working under one of the best two-way players in NHL history. His development isn't in doubt.

Armia's 3.4 was given to him off the back of a couple of good seasons and he regressed right back to being a solid 4th line guy. He's not worth even the 1.7 he would be at retained right now.
Aug. 8, 2022 at 11:03 a.m.
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Quoting: Billy316
No just Fans
Coaches see 49.5% of all hoffmans production coming from Power Play
Even if he does suck hypothetically there's not another person i've found to match that stat alone.
PP players usually score 35-40% at best of their offense on PP alone

MTL is actually great with keeping that as he earned his pay unlike 8/10 players last year
Im more so worried about moving Savard.Armia and Allen (hate to lose him for nothing as a UFA as he wont re-sign )
Armia we cant move IMO nor is he bad enough to just yet but he has to step it up
Savard needs to go he's a #4/5 D good behind multiple leaders as depth and we just risk diminishing his value too much
Allen should go to PIT in my opinion he'll thrive there


And when Hoffman is on the ice, the team gives up more goals then they score. There is not a chance the Hawks accept that trade or anyone. You are going to have to retain 50% to get value for Hoffman back otherwise he's a cap dump.
Aug. 8, 2022 at 9:51 p.m.
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Quoting: BlackhawksReboot
Gonna cost you a whole lot more than that to move Hoffman's salary.


you may want to believe such, but cap situation is really not that important next year so price are going to go up and pp players like hoffman will get their trade value back
Aug. 8, 2022 at 9:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Difference is... KK is worth his 4.82. Armia isn't worth his 3.4


Armia has experience a puck control alog the board. Is he paid too much, peharps 400 000$ over the price tag, but next year Carolina can afford to add a big body to fulfill the dream of a cup run. 2 years of him is not a cap dilemma at all.
Aug. 8, 2022 at 9:55 p.m.
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you may want to believe such, but cap situation is really not that important next year so price are going to go up and pp players like hoffman will get their trade value back


Cap is projected to go up by 1m only again next year. Why wouldn’t teams still be cap strapped? That won’t change quickly.
Aug. 8, 2022 at 9:55 p.m.
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Quoting: klassic
50% of your points coming from PP is not a GOOD thing. That basically means he is dead weight at even strength. Hawks are not taking on salary for free.


This could also mean that he helps to upgrade the pp production rate and with better players or team give them point to succed and go to another level of goal production.
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Aug. 8, 2022 at 9:55 p.m.
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Armia has experience a puck control alog the board. Is he paid too much, peharps 400 000$ over the price tag, but next year Carolina can afford to add a big body to fulfill the dream of a cup run. 2 years of him is not a cap dilemma at all.


Canes have cheaper better options in the bottom 6. They won’t clog that up with an overpaid 4th liner and definitely wouldn’t give any assets up.
Aug. 8, 2022 at 9:56 p.m.
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Cap is projected to go up by 1m only again next year. Why wouldn’t teams still be cap strapped? That won’t change quickly.


cap is sur due to be maintain, but for contract on a a 2 yrs base it's nothing. If It was 4 or 5 yrs i'd be ok with the statement but at 2 yr x 3.400, it's not that much.
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Aug. 8, 2022 at 9:57 p.m.
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Quoting: vikhodush
Canes have cheaper better options in the bottom 6. They won’t clog that up with an overpaid 4th liner and definitely wouldn’t give any assets up.


you may think that you have cheaper options, but would your team be better is still debatable.
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Aug. 8, 2022 at 9:59 p.m.
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cap is sur due to be maintain, but for contract on a a 2 yrs base it's nothing. If It was 4 or 5 yrs i'd be ok with the statement but at 2 yr x 3.400, it's not that much.


That doesn’t make sense. In 4-5 years the cap will likely go up substantially so the contract would look better. Over the next 2 years teams are tight against the cap and every contract matters even more.
Aug. 8, 2022 at 10:00 p.m.
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you may think that you have cheaper options, but would your team be better is still debatable.

Really not debatable. Rather spend 1m or less on average fourth liners or give our promising prospects who’ve earned nhl time a chance then spend way more on a fourth liner than necessary. Can use the savings to make the team better in other areas. Canes are one of the last teams to trade for an overpaid guy like Armia.
Aug. 8, 2022 at 10:09 p.m.
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Quoting: vikhodush
Really not debatable. Rather spend 1m or less on average fourth liners or give our promising prospects who’ve earned nhl time a chance then spend way more on a fourth liner than necessary. Can use the savings to make the team better in other areas. Canes are one of the last teams to trade for an overpaid guy like Armia.




Pacioretty Aho Jarvis
Svechnikov KK Teravainen
Suzuki Staal Necas
Martinook Drury Armia

Fast and Kase gone with Gardiner. This work for me. I know you guys value by price and emotion, but i value by cycle and skills.
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