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Foegele Plus for Johnson

Created by: OldNYIfan
Team: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 8, 2022
Published: Aug. 8, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Trying something out on Chicago Blackhawk fans.

A fourth-liner for a third-liner and a couple of picks. Chicago isn't taking on a big cap hit or much term.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,250,000
1$1,000,000
Trades
CHI
  1. Foegele, Warren
  2. 2024 4th round pick (EDM)
  3. 2025 3rd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Johnson, Reese
  2. 2024 5th round pick (CHI)
Buyouts
Recapture Fees
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$67,159,296$237,500$2,125,000$15,340,704
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$2,625,000$2,625,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, C, RW
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 2
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$758,333$758,333
RW
RFA - 2
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$758,333$758,333
LW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 8
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$3,800,000$3,800,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$975,000$975,000
LW, C
UFA - 1

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Aug. 8, 2022 at 7:30 p.m.
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Bouchard_fan
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EDM declines that's too much to dump foegele who is only 26 and still has some upside and johnson analytics are so bad 1% ev offense, 48% ev defense, 10% finishing, 6% WAR, I'm not familiar with johnson and haven't watch him play but those numbers scare me, Maybe if you took Barrie instead Edmonton would consider, His PK numbers look pretty alright
Aug. 8, 2022 at 7:32 p.m.
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NoMoreJustin
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I’d send Foegele and a 3rd as a dump and move along.
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Aug. 8, 2022 at 7:33 p.m.
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Quoting: BouchBomb
EDM declines that's too much to dump foegele who is only 26 and still has some upside and johnson analytics are so bad 1% ev offense, 48% ev defense, 10% finishing, 6% WAR, I'm not familiar with johnson and haven't watch him play but those numbers scare me, Maybe if you took Barrie instead Edmonton would consider, His PK numbers look pretty alright


That’s about the worst argument you can make against a player. The analytics are god people are ruining hockey
Aug. 8, 2022 at 7:41 p.m.
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Quoting: LloydminsterLarry
That’s about the worst argument you can make against a player. The analytics are god people are ruining hockey


is that why Colorado, Tampa, Florida, Maple Leafs and Carolina are running the NHL every year????? Analytics are the future of hockey just accept it. NBA, NFL and even the MLB is getting more and more involved with analytics because Numbers and facts > people's eye test and opinions, last 3 cup champs have been heavy analytical teams and it ain't no coincidence
Aug. 8, 2022 at 7:44 p.m.
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Quoting: BouchBomb
EDM declines that's too much to dump foegele who is only 26 and still has some upside and johnson analytics are so bad 1% ev offense, 48% ev defense, 10% finishing, 6% WAR, I'm not familiar with johnson and haven't watch him play but those numbers scare me, Maybe if you took Barrie instead Edmonton would consider, His PK numbers look pretty alright


Edmonton declines?

How can you claim to be an Oiler fan and be utterly ignorant of the cap problem you guys have?

This isn't an effort to bring in a winger for McDavid or Draisaitl -- it's an effort to be cap compliant and exchange a virtually useless third-liner for some cap space.

The whole reason why Foegele hasn't been traded yet is that no one has made Edmonton an offer this good, so that the Oilers can keep Barrie instead of having to find a replacement for him.
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Aug. 8, 2022 at 11:19 p.m.
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NoMoreJustin
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Quoting: BouchBomb
is that why Colorado, Tampa, Florida, Maple Leafs and Carolina are running the NHL every year????? Analytics are the future of hockey just accept it. NBA, NFL and even the MLB is getting more and more involved with analytics because Numbers and facts > people's eye test and opinions, last 3 cup champs have been heavy analytical teams and it ain't no coincidence


I don’t need stat people to tell me what a good hockey player looks like. Ryan Reaves is a good hockey player. Why? Because he brings physical presence to the ice thst few players today can contend with and he is a leader. Analytics don’t mean squat when assessing a player like that.
Aug. 8, 2022 at 11:21 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Edmonton declines?

How can you claim to be an Oiler fan and be utterly ignorant of the cap problem you guys have?

This isn't an effort to bring in a winger for McDavid or Draisaitl -- it's an effort to be cap compliant and exchange a virtually useless third-liner for some cap space.

The whole reason why Foegele hasn't been traded yet is that no one has made Edmonton an offer this good, so that the Oilers can keep Barrie instead of having to find a replacement for him.


These people are analytics rules the world people not hockey fans. Because Foegele checks their boxes they want to keep him despite the fact that it would ruin our team because then we’d have to trade a more useful player
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Aug. 9, 2022 at 1:59 a.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Edmonton declines?

How can you claim to be an Oiler fan and be utterly ignorant of the cap problem you guys have?

This isn't an effort to bring in a winger for McDavid or Draisaitl -- it's an effort to be cap compliant and exchange a virtually useless third-liner for some cap space.

The whole reason why Foegele hasn't been traded yet is that no one has made Edmonton an offer this good, so that the Oilers can keep Barrie instead of having to find a replacement for him.


If Edmonton did this trade and signed mcleod 1x1.175M (assuming he gets the same deal as yams/JP this would put us at -700K with a 22 man roster from Bouchard's 900k carry over bonus from last season paying a 3rd and 4TH for a player with some upside like foegele would just not be worth it IMO
If i was going to give up 2 high picks i'd give up a 2nd and 3rd to move barrie's contract out instead
Also foegele was not useless he just had bad puck luck all year Foegele-Mcleod-puljujarvi was one of our best line analytically vs the AVS with 62.75 CF%, 76.61xGF%, 73.68 SCF% and 100.00 HDCF(!!!) they couldn't finish (which is important i know) but they hemmed every line they played against in their own zone and really suppressed Colorado's quick transition offense whenever they hit the ice
Aug. 9, 2022 at 2:07 a.m.
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Quoting: BouchBomb
If Edmonton did this trade and signed mcleod 1x1.175M (assuming he gets the same deal as yams/JP this would put us at -700K with a 22 man roster from Bouchard's 900k carry over bonus from last season paying a 3rd and 4TH for a player with some upside like foegele would just not be worth it IMO
If i was going to give up 2 high picks i'd give up a 2nd and 3rd to move barrie's contract out instead
Also foegele was not useless he just had bad puck luck all year Foegele-Mcleod-puljujarvi was one of our best line analytically vs the AVS with 62.75 CF%, 76.61xGF%, 73.68 SCF% and 100.00 HDCF(!!!) they couldn't finish (which is important i know) but they hemmed every line they played against in their own zone and really suppressed Colorado's quick transition offense whenever they hit the ice


CF% = Corsi for %,
xGF% = Expected Goals for %
SCF% = 5v5 Scoring chances for %
HDCF% = 5v5 High Danger Chances for %
all of their numbers when all three were together were very elite which is a good thing
 
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