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What would Patty Kane and Bertuzzi cost

Created by: ToneCapone420
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 9, 2022
Published: Aug. 11, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
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Do you think this is enough for Chicago or Detroit to consider moving them? Detroit could be at the deadline if they are out of playoffs
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Sandin, Rasmus4$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Subban, P.K.2$900,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler ($1,250,000 retained)
DET
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Niemelä, Topi
  3. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Kane, Patrick ($5,250,000 retained)
CHI
  1. Muzzin, Jake
  2. Holl, Justin
  3. Minten, Fraser [Reserve List]
  4. Robertson, Nicholas
  5. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
  6. 2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
  7. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$82,500,000$82,105,616$212,500$0$394,384
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Bertuzzi, Tyler
$3,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
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Kane, Patrick
$5,250,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
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Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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Järnkrok, Calle
$2,100,000
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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Engvall, Pierre
$2,250,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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Gaudette, Adam
$750,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
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Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Rielly, Morgan
$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Murray, Matt
$4,687,500
G
NTC
UFA - 2
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Giordano, Mark
$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Liljegren, Timothy
$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
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Samsonov, Ilya
$1,800,000
G
RFA - 1
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Sandin, Rasmus
$2,000,000
LD
RFA - 2
Subban, P.K.
$900,000
RD
UFA

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Aug. 11 at 9:46 a.m.
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Can bertuzzi even play in Canada?
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Aug. 11 at 9:46 a.m.
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If i were Detroit id accept that.
Aug. 11 at 9:47 a.m.
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I mean...Bertuzzi still can't cross the border due to COVID policies. Why would you want him when he can't play ~50% of the games and then potentially in the playoffs....no away games.
Aug. 11 at 9:48 a.m.
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I mean...Bertuzzi still can't cross the border due to COVID policies. Why would you want him when he can't play north of 50% of the games and then potentially in the playoffs....no away games.


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Can bertuzzi even play in Canada?


LOL Im hoping Canada figures their **** out by the time the season starts i know of buddies that got over the border and back unvaxxed without having to test i dont really know what the rules are anymore
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Aug. 11 at 9:52 a.m.
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I doubt Chicago is going to take on cap dumps and eat salary for Kane. You are really only giving them Robertson and a late 1st that hold any type of value. I think they could do a lot better than that from every other teams.
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Aug. 11 at 9:54 a.m.
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I doubt Chicago is going to take on cap dumps and eat salary for Kane. You are really only giving them Robertson and a late 1st that hold any type of value. I think they could do a lot better than that from every other teams.


Minten was also the Leafs 1st round pick this year but it gives them a couple of NHL caliber dmen for this year and i dont know if there are any teams that could take on Kane without Chicago retaining salary or taking cap dumps back, but definitely could see a team offering more for Kane
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Aug. 11 at 9:54 a.m.
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Way more than that.
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If i were Detroit id accept that.

Yea, not even close... not giving up a top line, almost point-per-game power forward for a bottom 6 forward, an average prospect and a late 1st AND retaining at that.

Insanely hard pass from Detroit.
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Aug. 11 at 9:55 a.m.
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bertuzzi aint worth that even if he wasnt missing more than 50% of the games
Aug. 11 at 9:56 a.m.
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Way more than that.
Yea, not even close... not giving up a top line, almost point-per-game power forward for a bottom 6 forward, an average prospect and a late 1st AND retaining at that.

Insanely hard pass from Detroit.


never been ppg once in his career
Aug. 11 at 10:03 a.m.
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Quoting: ToneCapone420
Minten was also the Leafs 1st round pick this year but it gives them a couple of NHL caliber dmen for this year and i dont know if there are any teams that could take on Kane without Chicago retaining salary or taking cap dumps back, but definitely could see a team offering more for Kane


Minten was a 2nd round pick. Doesn't really have stats that stand out either.
Aug. 11 at 10:04 a.m.
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Minten was a 2nd round pick. Doesn't really have stats that stand out either.


True i forgot that they traded down to move Mrazek
Aug. 11 at 10:13 a.m.
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Not enough for Detroit, especially if it’s a deadline move. Kerfoot does nothing for the Wings, and would be gone after the season. I do like Topi, but in no way is him plus a 25-30 getting Bert.

All of that would be irrelevant any ways unless border restrictions open up, Toronto wants an extension, etc.
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Aug. 11 at 10:16 a.m.
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LOL Im hoping Canada figures their **** out by the time the season starts i know of buddies that got over the border and back unvaxxed without having to test i dont really know what the rules are anymore


It's lifted now. Everyone except for truckers can cross the border now, but they still have to test I think
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Aug. 11 at 10:24 a.m.
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Way more than that.
Yea, not even close... not giving up a top line, almost point-per-game power forward for a bottom 6 forward, an average prospect and a late 1st AND retaining at that.

Insanely hard pass from Detroit.


Bertuzzi is a pending UFA and considering he hasn't signed an extension yet means he isn't a sure shot to resign.
You are also underrating Kerfoot and Niemelä.
Kerfoot is a 3rd liner but can easily slot up into the lineup with good players around him.
Niemelä has potential I'd say he's above average not a star by any means but better than average.
Also a late first in a very deep draft with great players throughout.
Aug. 11 at 10:29 a.m.
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LOL Im hoping Canada figures their **** out by the time the season starts i know of buddies that got over the border and back unvaxxed without having to test i dont really know what the rules are anymore


You should get smarter friends
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Aug. 11 at 10:49 a.m.
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Quoting: ToneCapone420
LOL Im hoping Canada figures their **** out by the time the season starts i know of buddies that got over the border and back unvaxxed without having to test i dont really know what the rules are anymore


Pffftt Canada oh good god I don’t think that will ever happen, hopefully but don’t count on it
Aug. 11 at 10:53 a.m.
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LOL Im hoping Canada figures their **** out by the time the season starts i know of buddies that got over the border and back unvaxxed without having to test i dont really know what the rules are anymore


As a baseball fan who has listened to Americans wine about the Canadian border restrictions re: vaccination status because American teams keep having to leave unvaccinated players home, I continue to find it very interesting that they don't realize that to enter the US by air, you are required to be fully vaccinated (American rule...not Canadian...).

My understanding is that you can drive back and forth if you aren't vaxed.
Aug. 11 at 10:53 a.m.
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Pffftt Canada oh good god I don’t think that will ever happen, hopefully but don’t count on it


(whispers): ...but...it's an American rule...
Aug. 11 at 10:54 a.m.
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Way more than that.
Yea, not even close... not giving up a top line, almost point-per-game power forward for a bottom 6 forward, an average prospect and a late 1st AND retaining at that.

Insanely hard pass from Detroit.


If its a deadline deal and Bertuzzi hasn't signed with Detroit yet I take this if there are no better options. Beginning of the season not a chance. Niemela is looking like a pretty good prospect and I would love to find someone long term to replace Hronek.
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Aug. 11 at 12:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
(whispers): ...but...it's an American rule...


American rule? I’m talking about Canada the country, unless ur talking about a nhl rule
Aug. 11 at 12:32 p.m.
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they'd cost too much
Aug. 11 at 12:32 p.m.
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American rule? I’m talking about Canada the country, unless ur talking about a nhl rule


"All non-immigrant, non-U.S. citizen air travelers to the United States must be fully vaccinated and provide proof of vaccination status prior to boarding an airplane to the United States. In addition, fully vaccinated foreign nationals may also enter the United States at land ports of entry (POE) and ferry terminals.Jun 13, 2022"

-United States of America (The Country)
Aug. 11 at 12:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
"All non-immigrant, non-U.S. citizen air travelers to the United States must be fully vaccinated and provide proof of vaccination status prior to boarding an airplane to the United States. In addition, fully vaccinated foreign nationals may also enter the United States at land ports of entry (POE) and ferry terminals.Jun 13, 2022"

-United States of America (The Country)


Never knew that of course I’m Canadian and I don’t follow up on Americans laws
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Aug. 11 at 12:38 p.m.
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Never knew that of course I’m Canadian and I don’t follow up on Americans laws


The rules in both countries are pretty similar, it's just Americans are less likely to need to come into Canada which is why they're always wowed when they realize they need to be vaccinated.
Aug. 11 at 12:41 p.m.
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Quoting: mondo
The rules in both countries are pretty similar, it's just Americans are less likely to need to come into Canada which is why they're always wowed when they realize they need to be vaccinated.


I’ve already gotten it explained to me, I get it now
 
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