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My All Time Leaf Team

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Initial Creation Date: Aug. 11, 2022
Published: Aug. 11, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
You’ll notice I did include Matthews and Marner in the scratches as ones who will soon be in the team. This includes players as far back as the St. Pats.

Coach is Punch Imlach

GM: Conn Smythe
Free Agent Signings
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Sundin, Mats1$1,000,000
Gilmour, Doug1$1,000,000
Mahovlich, Frank1$1,000,000
Kelly, Red1$1,000,000
Jackson, Busher1$1,000,000
Pulford, Bob1$1,000,000
Duff, Dick1$1,000,000
Conacher, Charlie1$1,000,000
Armstrong, George1$1,000,000
Dye, Babe1$1,000,000
McDonald, Lanny1$1,000,000
Horton, Tim1$1,000,000
Salming, Borje1$1,000,000
Clancy, King1$1,000,000
Horner, Red1$1,000,000
Day, Hap1$1,000,000
Bower, Johnny1$1,000,000
Broda, Turk1$1,000,000
Stanley, Allen1$1,000,000
Keon, Dave1$1,000,000
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$42,755,750$212,500$0$39,744,250
Left WingCenterRight Wing
Mahovlich, Frank
$1,000,000
Keon, Dave
$1,000,000
Armstrong, George
$1,000,000
Jackson, Busher
$1,000,000
Kelly, Red
$1,000,000
Conacher, Charlie
$1,000,000
Pulford, Bob
$1,000,000
Gilmour, Doug
$1,000,000
Dye, Babe
$1,000,000
Duff, Dick
$1,000,000
Sundin, Mats
$1,000,000
McDonald, Lanny
$1,000,000
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Salming, Borje
$1,000,000
Horton, Tim
$1,000,000
Bower, Johnny
$1,000,000
Clancy, King
$1,000,000
Horner, Red
$1,000,000
Broda, Turk
$1,000,000
Stanley, Allen
$1,000,000
Day, Hap
$1,000,000
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
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Engvall, Pierre
$2,250,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
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Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 1
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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Järnkrok, Calle
$2,100,000
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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Murray, Matt
$4,687,500
G
NTC
UFA - 2
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Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Gaudette, Adam
$750,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
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Clifford, Kyle
$762,500
LW
UFA - 2
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Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
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Rielly, Morgan
$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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Liljegren, Timothy
$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
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Samsonov, Ilya
$1,800,000
G
RFA - 1
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Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Anderson, Joey
$750,000
RW
RFA - 1
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Giordano, Mark
$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Simmonds, Wayne
$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1

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Aug. 11 at 1:57 p.m.
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I think u gotta include Matthews and marner. At least Matthews. First hart winner since idk 1867?
Aug. 11 at 2:05 p.m.
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I have a feeling leafs fans will be mad that matthews and marner are scratches despite every forward here being a hall of famer and have a full career where as both Matthew’s and marner are in the 7th or 8th years of their careers.
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Quoting: mauston_atthews
I think u gotta include Matthews and marner. At least Matthews. First hart winner since idk 1867?


And I have been proven right.
Aug. 11 at 2:07 p.m.
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I think u gotta include Matthews and marner. At least Matthews. First hart winner since idk 1867?


Which player who’s already in the Hall of Fame would you like to toss?
Aug. 11 at 2:16 p.m.
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Which player who’s already in the Hall of Fame would you like to toss?


Dick duff lol
Aug. 11 at 2:19 p.m.
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And I have been proven right.


Matthews career right now projects to be better than a lot of these leafs’. Already has more individual awards than any of these guys lol. “Oh but he hasn’t played a full career or won anything” this is based on how they performed in Toronto. Gilmour played 6 seasons with the leafs so why is he on here and not Matthews?
Aug. 11 at 2:33 p.m.
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Quoting: mauston_atthews
Matthews career right now projects to be better than a lot of these leafs’. Already has more individual awards than any of these guys lol. “Oh but he hasn’t played a full career or won anything” this is based on how they performed in Toronto. Gilmour played 6 seasons with the leafs so why is he on here and not Matthews?


Doug Gilmour carried the team within one fluke goal of a Stanley Cup final for the first time since 1967. If someone is going to make an all time team of an original six franchise they need to be in the Hall of Fame
Aug. 11 at 2:37 p.m.
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Doug Gilmour carried the team within one fluke goal of a Stanley Cup final for the first time since 1967. If someone is going to make an all time team of an original six franchise they need to be in the Hall of Fame


I absolutely think gilmour should be here, as well as Matthews because of his accomplishments so far. I’m saying if gilmour is here Matthews should be as well. Matthews will be in the hall of fame
Aug. 11 at 2:40 p.m.
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Matthews career right now projects to be better than a lot of these leafs’. Already has more individual awards than any of these guys lol. “Oh but he hasn’t played a full career or won anything” this is based on how they performed in Toronto. Gilmour played 6 seasons with the leafs so why is he on here and not Matthews?


Because he was a leaf. When you think of Doug gilmour, you envision him in a leafs jersey. Gilmour was much more iconic for the leafs than Matthew’s has been. Not to mention he is in the HOF. At the moment, Matthew’s doesn’t crack the top 12. Not a slight or attack on matthews but rather just proof he hasn’t played long enough to warrant being in the top 12 for such a storied franchise. Look at Carey price for example. He is easily the best goalie of his generation. 7 years into his NHL career, he had cemented himself as the best goalie in the world. 7 years into his career would he be on the habs all time team? No. There is Roy and plante. He didn’t have enough time to establish himself as being better for the habs than those two. Matthew’s is similar where he is one of the best in the game but he hasn’t had enough time to establish himself in that top 12. The only 2 players I could see being in an all time team who are similar in age to Matthew’s is mcdavid and makar. Mcdavid because he is the best player of this generation and has had a single season under a 100 point pace. The oilers are also not an original 6 team. As for makar he is also not playing for an original 6 franchise. Give Matthew’s another season or two and he probably makes this team but as of now, he hasn’t played long enough to warrant being over a hall of famer despite he is on a hall of fame pace.
Aug. 11 at 2:42 p.m.
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I absolutely think gilmour should be here, as well as Matthews because of his accomplishments so far. I’m saying if gilmour is here Matthews should be as well. Matthews will be in the hall of fame


Matthews needs to get out of round 1 before he can be in the same sentence as Gilmour. I’m interested in you going after Gilmore when Sundin would be the easier target? He’s as good a regular season player as anyone much like Matthews and Marner. I only have him in here because the Leafs last were a real cup contender under his leadership. If Matthews can get us out of round one and he looks like a Conn Smythe Calibre player then I’d be willing to put him in Sundin’s spot
Aug. 11 at 2:44 p.m.
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Because he was a leaf. When you think of Doug gilmour, you envision him in a leafs jersey. Gilmour was much more iconic for the leafs than Matthew’s has been. Not to mention he is in the HOF. At the moment, Matthew’s doesn’t crack the top 12. Not a slight or attack on matthews but rather just proof he hasn’t played long enough to warrant being in the top 12 for such a storied franchise. Look at Carey price for example. He is easily the best goalie of his generation. 7 years into his NHL career, he had cemented himself as the best goalie in the world. 7 years into his career would he be on the habs all time team? No. There is Roy and plante. He didn’t have enough time to establish himself as being better for the habs than those two. Matthew’s is similar where he is one of the best in the game but he hasn’t had enough time to establish himself in that top 12. The only 2 players I could see being in an all time team who are similar in age to Matthew’s is mcdavid and makar. Mcdavid because he is the best player of this generation and has had a single season under a 100 point pace. The oilers are also not an original 6 team. As for makar he is also not playing for an original 6 franchise. Give Matthew’s another season or two and he probably makes this team but as of now, he hasn’t played long enough to warrant being over a hall of famer despite he is on a hall of fame pace.


And even McDavid would be on a 3rd line because you can’t say he’s better than Messier yet
Aug. 11 at 2:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Cardiac
Because he was a leaf. When you think of Doug gilmour, you envision him in a leafs jersey. Gilmour was much more iconic for the leafs than Matthew’s has been. Not to mention he is in the HOF. At the moment, Matthew’s doesn’t crack the top 12. Not a slight or attack on matthews but rather just proof he hasn’t played long enough to warrant being in the top 12 for such a storied franchise. Look at Carey price for example. He is easily the best goalie of his generation. 7 years into his NHL career, he had cemented himself as the best goalie in the world. 7 years into his career would he be on the habs all time team? No. There is Roy and plante. He didn’t have enough time to establish himself as being better for the habs than those two. Matthew’s is similar where he is one of the best in the game but he hasn’t had enough time to establish himself in that top 12. The only 2 players I could see being in an all time team who are similar in age to Matthew’s is mcdavid and makar. Mcdavid because he is the best player of this generation and has had a single season under a 100 point pace. The oilers are also not an original 6 team. As for makar he is also not playing for an original 6 franchise. Give Matthew’s another season or two and he probably makes this team but as of now, he hasn’t played long enough to warrant being over a hall of famer despite he is on a hall of fame pace.


I see Gilmour as a Flame on their only cup winning team and then a Leaf
Aug. 11 at 3:17 p.m.
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Matthews needs to get out of round 1 before he can be in the same sentence as Gilmour. I’m interested in you going after Gilmore when Sundin would be the easier target? He’s as good a regular season player as anyone much like Matthews and Marner. I only have him in here because the Leafs last were a real cup contender under his leadership. If Matthews can get us out of round one and he looks like a Conn Smythe Calibre player then I’d be willing to put him in Sundin’s spot


Did I once say I didn’t think gilmour should be there? I just said he should be along with Matthews as they have similar accomplishments. Matthews is the better player than gilmour was, played as many seasons, won more individual awards etc. I understand your argument of “he hasn’t won anything” so yes, I think gilmour is more of a revered leaf than Matthews right now, that doesn’t mean I don’t think Matthews should be here over guys like dick duff, or Jackson busher
Aug. 11 at 3:58 p.m.
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Did I once say I didn’t think gilmour should be there? I just said he should be along with Matthews as they have similar accomplishments. Matthews is the better player than gilmour was, played as many seasons, won more individual awards etc. I understand your argument of “he hasn’t won anything” so yes, I think gilmour is more of a revered leaf than Matthews right now, that doesn’t mean I don’t think Matthews should be here over guys like dick duff, or Jackson busher


And why are those player unworthy when they’re already Hall of Famers? Matthews hasn’t earned it yet. It’s as simple as that.
Aug. 11 at 4:33 p.m.
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And why are those player unworthy when they’re already Hall of Famers? Matthews hasn’t earned it yet. It’s as simple as that.


This team would be better if Matthews was on it, that’s my take. Agree to disagree
Aug. 11 at 4:36 p.m.
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so the criteria for this list you have to be retired, the best actual hockey player for thus franchise is not on it
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Matthews needs to get out of round 1 before he can be in the same sentence as Gilmour. I’m interested in you going after Gilmore when Sundin would be the easier target? He’s as good a regular season player as anyone much like Matthews and Marner. I only have him in here because the Leafs last were a real cup contender under his leadership. If Matthews can get us out of round one and he looks like a Conn Smythe Calibre player then I’d be willing to put him in Sundin’s spot


at the end of the day whether you want to admit it or not, round wins dont matter unless you win the cup, theres a reason why when you search a player there isnt a category for round wins, and thats the case for anyone on this team that played after 67 without winning a cup, and matthews has more awards and pure ability wise was a better hockey player
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Aug. 11 at 4:54 p.m.
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at the end of the day whether you want to admit it or not, round wins dont matter unless you win the cup, theres a reason why when you search a player there isnt a category for round wins, and thats the case for anyone on this team that played after 67 without winning a cup, and matthews has more awards and pure ability wise was a better hockey player


Better hockey player than who?
Aug. 11 at 4:55 p.m.
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so the criteria for this list you have to be retired, the best actual hockey player for thus franchise is not on it


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This team would be better if Matthews was on it, that’s my take. Agree to disagree


A kid who’s played 6 years is not better than Dave Keon or any of the greats who made this franchise one of the best ever.
Aug. 11 at 5:09 p.m.
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Imlach’s tactics probably won’t work in today’s nhl but yeah he still is the leafs best coach in history
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Aug. 11 at 5:30 p.m.
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My Team
LW - 1)Frank Mahovlich 2)Bob Pulford 3)Wendal Clark 4)Busher Jackson 5)John Anderson 6)Sid Smith
C - 1)Mats Sundin 2)Darryl Sittler 3)Dave Keon 4)Auston Matthews 5)Doug Gilmour 6)Syl Apps
RW - 1)Ron Ellis 2)Rick Vaive 3)Lanny Macdonald 4)Mitch Marner 5)Charlie Conacher 6)Phil Kessel
LD - 1)Borje Salming 2)Thomas Kaberle 3)Ian Turnbull 4)Morgan Rielly 5)Red Kelly
RD - 1)Tim Horton 2)Jim Mckenny 3)Bob Baun 4)Jimmy Thomson 5)Red Horner
Goalie - Turk Broda 2)Johnny Bower 3)Felix Potvin 4)Mike Palmeteer
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Aug. 11 at 7:31 p.m.
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Quoting: junoandkeisha
My Team
LW - 1)Frank Mahovlich 2)Bob Pulford 3)Wendal Clark 4)Busher Jackson 5)John Anderson 6)Sid Smith
C - 1)Mats Sundin 2)Darryl Sittler 3)Dave Keon 4)Auston Matthews 5)Doug Gilmour 6)Syl Apps
RW - 1)Ron Ellis 2)Rick Vaive 3)Lanny Macdonald 4)Mitch Marner 5)Charlie Conacher 6)Phil Kessel
LD - 1)Borje Salming 2)Thomas Kaberle 3)Ian Turnbull 4)Morgan Rielly 5)Red Kelly
RD - 1)Tim Horton 2)Jim Mckenny 3)Bob Baun 4)Jimmy Thomson 5)Red Horner
Goalie - Turk Broda 2)Johnny Bower 3)Felix Potvin 4)Mike Palmeteer


Other than the defenceman I can accept that
Aug. 12 at 8:39 a.m.
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A kid who’s played 6 years is not better than Dave Keon or any of the greats who made this franchise one of the best ever.


accolades and ability are 2 different things, 6 years is irrelavant, from a legacy stand point sure but was dave keon ever the 2nd best player in the NHL? Love Mats, my favourite player growing up, but what did he really do? was never a top 3 player in the league while he was playing, Auston IS. there was also nobody as good as mcdavid or crosby while mats was in the league. round wins dont matter unless you win the cup, before the leafs went on this not winning a playoff round streak, you never heard anybody talking about playoff rounds as serious. he has the rookie record for points and goals, so he has ahd the best rookie season in the history of this historic franchise, hes also the best goal scorer in this history of the franchise, hes one of 2 leafs ever to win the MVP. if he doesnt win a cup then i agree it might be hard to put him the best, but ability wise, there has been nobody better
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accolades and ability are 2 different things, 6 years is irrelavant, from a legacy stand point sure but was dave keon ever the 2nd best player in the NHL? Love Mats, my favourite player growing up, but what did he really do? was never a top 3 player in the league while he was playing, Auston IS. there was also nobody as good as mcdavid or crosby while mats was in the league. round wins dont matter unless you win the cup, before the leafs went on this not winning a playoff round streak, you never heard anybody talking about playoff rounds as serious. he has the rookie record for points and goals, so he has ahd the best rookie season in the history of this historic franchise, hes also the best goal scorer in this history of the franchise, hes one of 2 leafs ever to win the MVP. if he doesnt win a cup then i agree it might be hard to put him the best, but ability wise, there has been nobody better


Dave Keon was the third person ever to win a Conn Smythe. He played against Jean Beliveau, Stan Mikita, Alex Delvecchio, Henri Richard, and Phil Esposito who are all Hall of Fame centres. He managed to win a Conn Smythe trophy while going up against Jean Beliveau in the finals. Regular season success can never mean more than postseason success.
Aug. 14 at 6:31 p.m.
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Other than the defenceman I can accept that


Who are yours and what’s wrong with the one’s I chose. Keep in mind, left and right d.
 
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