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Created by: NMAvsFan
Team: 2023-24 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 14, 2022
Published: Aug. 14, 2022
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Trading Toews because they can't afford to re-sign him. It could be to any team that needs a 1D but the return makes sense to me because it's a low 1st and the prospect is one they can afford to lose even though he looks like a guy that can reliably play in the bottom pair so they aren't taking on a lot of cap in this scenario. It's probably true they could try to get more, maybe a younger C that could fit into the 4th line role I put Bjugstad in here instead of the 2nd.

This all assumes, of course, that Newhook can at least hold down that 2C role competently. It could be argued that both he and Byram, should they have good seasons, could ask for a bit more on bridges but they're just waiting for the cap to go up and pad their stats before the cap goes up dramatically. Also, Olausson has to show he can be a viable middle-six guy playing against men.

There are a lot of little tweaks that could be made but this feels like a viable roster.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,500,000
2$4,000,000
2$1,500,000
3$1,250,000
1$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,500,000
8$11,290,000
1$1,000,000
2$1,250,000
Trades
COL
  1. Harris, Jordan [RFA Rights]
  2. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (MTL)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$81,365,833$637,500$0$2,134,167
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 6
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$11,290,000$11,290,000
C
UFA - 8
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
C, LW
RFA - 4
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 4
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$863,333$863,333
RW
RFA - 3
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$987,500$987,500
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
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UFA - 1

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Aug. 14, 2022 at 4:30 p.m.
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avs could get more out of montreal.
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Aug. 14, 2022 at 4:40 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
avs could get more out of montreal.


Why would MTL, who expect to be a bottom 10 team, would trade quality future assets for 1 year for Devon Toews ? Tell me how it makes senses from a Habs perspective
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Aug. 14, 2022 at 4:44 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
avs could get more out of montreal.


Yeah, probably. But if I add more, someone will come here and tell me that it's way too much, lol. Personally, I think a 1st, a 2nd and two solid prospects is a good return and a fair price for Toews (with either a new deal in place or a guarantee of him re-signing) but some genius is sure to bring up "but he only cost two 2nd's" as though that's how it works.
Aug. 14, 2022 at 4:45 p.m.
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Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
Why would MTL, who expect to be a bottom 10 team, would trade quality future assets for 1 year for Devon Toews ? Tell me how it makes senses from a Habs perspective


Right on cue...

Imagine he comes with the guarantee of re-signing; does that help? Not many quicker ways to get out of the bottom 10 than by adding a legit 1D.
Aug. 14, 2022 at 4:46 p.m.
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Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
Why would MTL, who expect to be a bottom 10 team, would trade quality future assets for 1 year for Devon Toews ? Tell me how it makes senses from a Habs perspective


no idea why the habs do what they do. why so many bad contracts. why dadonov.

just saying the avs would get more out of the habs for toews.
Aug. 14, 2022 at 5:03 p.m.
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Quoting: NMAvsFan
Right on cue...

Imagine he comes with the guarantee of re-signing; does that help? Not many quicker ways to get out of the bottom 10 than by adding a legit 1D.


Edmundson Matheson are already forming the top 4, Harris is NHL ready, Guhle should be, and we have planty of LHD. Why try to finish 8-10 instead of 3-6 ? On top of that we lose quality assets, we will overpay for Toews and he won’t be good when MTL will be competitive (in like 4-5 years). Toews will be another anchor contract at that point.

Quoting: DirtyDangle
no idea why the habs do what they do. why so many bad contracts. why dadonov.

just saying the avs would get more out of the habs for toews.


Why ? Gallagher : on a pace for 3 30 goals seasons in a row, heart and soul of the team. Bergevin feel obligated to extend him … mistake. Armia : good potential + good playoff run = that contract. He doesn’t live up to his contract at all right now … mistake by Bergevin. Drouin : fair bet, just didn’t turned out good at the NHL level like he did in Junior … not a mistake IMO, just a flip the coin. Hoffman : mistake, nothing to add here. Dadonov : MTL can have both Price and Weber on LTIR but their salary together are too high for one season, so their would be an overage bonuses every year. To avoid that possibility, Kent Hughes decided to deal Weber right now before his hands are tied (If Price can’t play anymore).
Aug. 14, 2022 at 5:14 p.m.
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Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
Why would MTL, who expect to be a bottom 10 team, would trade quality future assets for 1 year for Devon Toews ? Tell me how it makes senses from a Habs perspective


He's just a well known pathetic troll
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Aug. 14, 2022 at 5:29 p.m.
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He's just a well known pathetic troll


He is being serious that’s the worse, he thinks his players are worth the moon and other players from other team are worth crap. Happy when MTL got Justin Barron alias untouchable prospect and a 2nd round pick when he was saying a 2nd is an overpayment for him xD
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Aug. 14, 2022 at 5:31 p.m.
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He's just a well known pathetic troll


is this because petry wasn't worth what you thought he was worth.
Aug. 14, 2022 at 5:43 p.m.
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Habs definitely decline
Aug. 14, 2022 at 5:46 p.m.
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Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
Edmundson Matheson are already forming the top 4, Harris is NHL ready, Guhle should be, and we have planty of LHD. Why try to finish 8-10 instead of 3-6 ? On top of that we lose quality assets, we will overpay for Toews and he won’t be good when MTL will be competitive (in like 4-5 years). Toews will be another anchor contract at that point.



Why ? Gallagher : on a pace for 3 30 goals seasons in a row, heart and soul of the team. Bergevin feel obligated to extend him … mistake. Armia : good potential + good playoff run = that contract. He doesn’t live up to his contract at all right now … mistake by Bergevin. Drouin : fair bet, just didn’t turned out good at the NHL level like he did in Junior … not a mistake IMO, just a flip the coin. Hoffman : mistake, nothing to add here. Dadonov : MTL can have both Price and Weber on LTIR but their salary together are too high for one season, so their would be an overage bonuses every year. To avoid that possibility, Kent Hughes decided to deal Weber right now before his hands are tied (If Price can’t play anymore).[
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Aug. 14, 2022 at 6:26 p.m.
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Thats a easy pass from the habs.

No chance they are giving up any futures for a player who is 25 or older it makes no sense in the timeline they are going for.
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Aug. 14, 2022 at 6:33 p.m.
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It's probably not the right move for the Habs. Were they to make it, then yes the Avs could get more. However, I don't see it as a logical move (not that they're renowned for that in MTL). The Avs could certainly get more elsewhere were the trading partner right, rather than the question on value.
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Aug. 14, 2022 at 8:03 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
no idea why the habs do what they do. why so many bad contracts. why dadonov.

just saying the avs would get more out of the habs for toews.


Cause you ignore our system and our needs
We're not saying Toews isnt worth more
We're saying he's not to us

You took MSL and Hughes boy who they both coached
He was Captain to both their sons in the NCAA and their families are tight.
I just dont see world where he'd trade him even for a better player.
Atleast not for a couple years anyways as his value will always be higher to them then to everyone else.

That said its not why i'd say no, i'd trade him
I'd say no because Matheson and Eddy are here until Ghule,Xhakaj,Norlinder and Schnuneman will be all battling for their spots soon as this year.
Thats not including Mailloux, Struble, Trudeau and Tournigny who are turning Pro either this year or next year
That's still leaving out Lane Hutson probably our best LD prospect and undisputed best puck carrying D since we drafted Subban

Again that's not all our D either or even all our high draft choices as many are depth picks , players signed off invite's or found in Laval
MTL did something smart for once not just drafting heavy in 1-2 leagues instead getting top D prospecs in every major league from US to Russia , Canada to Sweden.
Its just that most of them are LD otherwise we'd be in heaven right now like LAK 3 years back when they stocked their pool (now look at them)
Aug. 14, 2022 at 8:12 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
no idea why the habs do what they do. why so many bad contracts. why dadonov.

just saying the avs would get more out of the habs for toews.


Dadanov?
Score's 20 goals each full season he plays and he's never really injured long
Only Nick Suzuki out scored him and he's a pending UFA we can flip after bolstering his already good numbers.

Not to mention he's a good 200ft player who's an Analytics darling who's only know really is over skating the puck occasionally (at which point he back checks hard)
I dont know what team wouldnt want Dadanov, i mean his cap hit i get not being thrilled about given he's atleast 500k-1m overpaid
But the players a solid guy who's being judged because he hasnt had the same amount of Assists he had beside Barkov,Huberdeau and Trochek among others.
His Goal Scoring dropped from high 20's to low 20's but that's still 20 frigging goals consistently

VGK gave away MAF fresh off a Vezina , Pacioretty fresh off 47 pts in 49 games and have to dump atleast 8m more minimum as even with Weber/Lehner/Patirck out they have 17/23 roster players signed with 74/82m in cap left to spend as it is now. Weber saved their butts big time helping them out and yet still they're a Karlsson atleast away from being ok for another year cap wise
 
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