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Team: 2022-23 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 15, 2022
Published: Aug. 15, 2022
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Aug. 15, 2022 at 1:25 a.m.
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I hate this team
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what
Aug. 15, 2022 at 1:26 a.m.
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All of this sucks so it is certainly in the realm of possibility for Lou. My only gripe that is there is no chance Lou trades away an enforcer like Johnston
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Aug. 15, 2022 at 1:33 a.m.
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All of this sucks so it is certainly in the realm of possibility for Lou. My only gripe that is there is no chance Lou trades away an enforcer like Johnston


True I think it would be hard day for him
Aug. 15, 2022 at 1:33 a.m.
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what


Just typical lou moves
Aug. 15, 2022 at 1:38 a.m.
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Just typical lou moves


This is such a tired narrative. Lou made 1 terrible move with nyi otherwise hes been very good.aside from the toews trade (and to a much lesser extent the komarov signing) can you please tell me a bad move that lou has made.
Aug. 15, 2022 at 1:42 a.m.
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This is such a tired narrative. Lou made 1 terrible move with nyi otherwise hes been very good.aside from the toews trade (and to a much lesser extent the komarov signing) can you please tell me a bad move that lou has made.


Towes, Palmieri, romonov karri at 7 years, pauge
Aug. 15, 2022 at 1:59 a.m.
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Quoting: TheTypicalLeafsFan
Towes, Palmieri, romonov karri at 7 years, pauge


Really?
1st i already said toews i asked for any other bad deals that werent that trade.
Kadri, hasnt been signed so idk how you could say that was a bad move when there wasnt any move made smdh.
Romanov is a 22yo top 4 dman. Trading 13oa in a weak draft for him is a win not to mention getting isaiah george in the process. Not really sure how you could spin this any other way.
Palmieri i wont comment on yet as im not sure if youre referring to the trade or the signing.
As for JGP im not really sure how you could say trading a very late 1st for this guy is a bad deal. And if you meant the extension id say the same thing.


Aug. 15, 2022 at 7:12 a.m.
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These are preposterous
Aug. 15, 2022 at 7:25 a.m.
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Isles are oldest team in league with a bunch of bad contracts :
1/ JGB, KP & JB - all on downward slope + who pays $5M for 40 pts production
2/ 4th line - 2 are overpaid & all 3 are past their prime, and cizikas has 5 more years grimace
3/ $5M on backup goalie
4/ Lee & Nelson are borderline overpaid today for their production and are in their 30’s with significant term left

Toews trade top 5 worst trades of all time + your prospect pool one of the five worst .

Hard not to see that this team is poorly constructed and that Lou has not done a great job
Aug. 15, 2022 at 8:20 a.m.
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Toews trade top 5 worst trades of all time


Spoken like someone that was not around for the Milbury era.
Aug. 15, 2022 at 8:24 a.m.
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Spoken like someone that was not around for the Milbury era.


No I wasn’t squinty smile .
But trading a top 10 dman in league (who was 26 and an RFA) for 2 x 2nds is about as dumb as I can imagine. Avs should put a statue of Lou up outside their arena
Aug. 15, 2022 at 8:27 a.m.
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No I wasn’t squinty smile .
But trading a top 10 dman in league (who was 26 and an RFA) for 2 x 2nds is about as dumb as I can imagine. Avs should put a statue of Lou up outside their arena


Yes, it was a bad trade (although he was not a top-10 defenseman at the time of the trade). However, Milbury was far, far worse. Toews might not even crack Milbury's personal top-5 worst, much less top-5 worst all time.
Aug. 15, 2022 at 9:40 a.m.
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Isles are oldest team in league with a bunch of bad contracts :
1/ JGB, KP & JB - all on downward slope + who pays $5M for 40 pts production
2/ 4th line - 2 are overpaid & all 3 are past their prime, and cizikas has 5 more years grimace
3/ $5M on backup goalie
4/ Lee & Nelson are borderline overpaid today for their production and are in their 30’s with significant term left

Toews trade top 5 worst trades of all time + your prospect pool one of the five worst .

Hard not to see that this team is poorly constructed and that Lou has not done a great job


I’m not a fan of Lou but calling Nelson overpaid is absurd and your argument loses all credibility. Nelson had 37 goals last season, would have put 40 if he played a full season. He’s worth 7-8 mill and his AAV is only 6 mill

The isles prospect pool is one of the worst but they still have a future star in Aatu Raty
Aug. 15, 2022 at 10:17 a.m.
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I’m not a fan of Lou but calling Nelson overpaid is absurd and your argument loses all credibility. Nelson had 37 goals last season, would have put 40 if he played a full season. He’s worth 7-8 mill and his AAV is only 6 mill


The isles prospect pool is one of the worst but they still have a future star in Aatu Raty


I said borderline but you are right - nelson seems like good value, even though in his career to date (except for last year) he is more 25-30 goals per season. My mistake.

But calling Raty a future star is bold, maybe but he fell into 2nd round for a reason.
And can’t past that this team is old with a lot of questionable contracts and - bottom 5 prospect pool. That’s a pretty damning record on the gm.
Aug. 15, 2022 at 10:56 a.m.
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I said borderline but you are right - nelson seems like good value, even though in his career to date (except for last year) he is more 25-30 goals per season. My mistake.

But calling Raty a future star is bold, maybe but he fell into 2nd round for a reason.
And can’t past that this team is old with a lot of questionable contracts and - bottom 5 prospect pool. That’s a pretty damning record on the gm.


In a re-draft Raty would go top 10. He was over scouted and last season he put up nearly identical numbers to Anton Lundell/sebastian Aho.

The forward core is old, the D core is not. The average age of the isles top 4 is 25 YO.
Aug. 15, 2022 at 11:07 a.m.
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In a re-draft Raty would go top 10. He was over scouted and last season he put up nearly identical numbers to Anton Lundell/sebastian Aho.

The forward core is old, the D core is not. The average age of the isles top 4 is 25 YO.


I guess we have a different definition of future star. Even with redraft and top 10 - hard to say Rary will be a future star, maybe future good or very good player but star?
If you are trying to argue isles have been well run and are well constructed to compete now or in the future - then agree to disagree. Tough to see them making the playoffs this year (rangers, canes, pens & caps seem better and Atlantic better than metro) t yet they don’t seem to be in a rebuild (with a really poor prospect pool and too many ageing forwards on big $ deals). From the outside i just don’t see it but you know the team better than me
Aug. 15, 2022 at 11:27 a.m.
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I guess we have a different definition of future star. Even with redraft and top 10 - hard to say Rary will be a future star, maybe future good or very good player but star?
If you are trying to argue isles have been well run and are well constructed to compete now or in the future - then agree to disagree. Tough to see them making the playoffs this year (rangers, canes, pens & caps seem better and Atlantic better than metro) t yet they don’t seem to be in a rebuild (with a really poor prospect pool and too many ageing forwards on big $ deals). From the outside i just don’t see it but you know the team better than me


Star production is usually at least .7 PPG (58 pts per 82). I think Raty will be a 65-70 pt 1C with an elite two way impact.

Lou is a mixed bag. He’s done some good and some bad. The isles best players are young at the most premium postitions (center, defense, goalie). The isles contending would require addition by subtraction, which I’m not sure Lou will do with certain players but it would be very easy to get the isles to contend. It would be contingent on allowing the isles younger players to have bigger roles and not giving certain vets ice time they don’t deserve.
Aug. 15, 2022 at 11:38 a.m.
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Star production is usually at least .7 PPG (58 pts per 82). I think Raty will be a 65-70 pt 1C with an elite two way impact.

Lou is a mixed bag. He’s done some good and some bad. The isles best players are young at the most premium postitions (center, defense, goalie). The isles contending would require addition by subtraction, which I’m not sure Lou will do with certain players but it would be very easy to get the isles to contend. It would be contingent on allowing the isles younger players to have bigger roles and not giving certain vets ice time they don’t deserve.


By your definition, there are ~ 100 stars in the league; kind of diminishes the meaning . Nah, a star is ppg forward or top 20 dman or top 10 goalie.
By my reckoning your goalie is young and looks good and the d corp looks decent - Dobson projecting top 20, Pulock close and pelech / Romanov decent but not great. Other than Barzal (who has yet to reach ppg status since his rookie year and is defensively questionable), where’s the other young centres? Wahlstrom , Bellows and raty the only wingers of note under 25 that I can see and none move the needle. Just not buying it - isles heading for some lean years unless miracle occurs
Aug. 15, 2022 at 11:51 a.m.
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By your definition, there are ~ 100 stars in the league; kind of diminishes the meaning . Nah, a star is ppg forward or top 20 dman or top 10 goalie.
By my reckoning your goalie is young and looks good and the d corp looks decent - Dobson projecting top 20, Pulock close and pelech / Romanov decent but not great. Other than Barzal (who has yet to reach ppg status since his rookie year and is defensively questionable), where’s the other young centres? Wahlstrom , Bellows and raty the only wingers of note under 25 that I can see and none move the needle. Just not buying it - isles heading for some lean years unless miracle occurs


There are maybe 25-30 players in the league who put up 65-70 points with elite two way impacts. Evaluating stars strictly based on PPG is a flawed argument.

Pelech has been a top 20 D the past 3 seasons.

Raty is a center, Bellows likely won’t be anything more than a 3rd liner. Wahlstrom is on a 1st line trajectory. He scored goals at an above rate despite being buried by Trotz. He would have had 25 goals last season if he was put in a position to succeed. He will be playing with Barzal sooner than later. You have to be out of touch to think that Wahlstrom won’t move the needle.
Aug. 15, 2022 at 12:31 p.m.
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There are maybe 25-30 players in the league who put up 65-70 points with elite two way impacts. Evaluating stars strictly based on PPG is a flawed argument.

Pelech has been a top 20 D the past 3 seasons.

Raty is a center, Bellows likely won’t be anything more than a 3rd liner. Wahlstrom is on a 1st line trajectory. He scored goals at an above rate despite being buried by Trotz. He would have had 25 goals last season if he was put in a position to succeed. He will be playing with Barzal sooner than later. You have to be out of touch to think that Wahlstrom won’t move the needle.


OK, name me a “star” forward that doesn’t put up ppg production? They simply don’t exist.

Pelech & Pulock have great defensive metrics, and good (not great) offensive numbers. But I’ll grant they are better than I first thought.

Wahlstrom may score 25 goals if he’s used properly, but Raty is better than his draft selection …a lot of buts and ifs.

Maybe makes sense given the teams we support and to each his own - I prefer offense (elite offense especially) over defense. Not one player on the isles (Dobson aside as he may yet reach elite offense levels) is currently or projects to be elite offensively. Good to great goalie and good to great top 4 d but otherwise a lot of older players that are…meh, and a few prospects coming up that are …meh.
Time will tell, I guess.
Aug. 15, 2022 at 1:09 p.m.
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Don't reply, this guy is obviously a troll.....
Aug. 15, 2022 at 2:10 p.m.
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OK, name me a “star” forward that doesn’t put up ppg production? They simply don’t exist.

Pelech & Pulock have great defensive metrics, and good (not great) offensive numbers. But I’ll grant they are better than I first thought.

Wahlstrom may score 25 goals if he’s used properly, but Raty is better than his draft selection …a lot of buts and ifs.

Maybe makes sense given the teams we support and to each his own - I prefer offense (elite offense especially) over defense. Not one player on the isles (Dobson aside as he may yet reach elite offense levels) is currently or projects to be elite offensively. Good to great goalie and good to great top 4 d but otherwise a lot of older players that are…meh, and a few prospects coming up that are …meh.
Time will tell, I guess.


patrice Bergeron, nikolaj ehlers , sean couturier, Barzal etc..

Pulock is an offensive defenseman. Analytically he has a top 20 offensive impact over the past 3 seasons among defenseman.

Barzal is definitely elite offensively, he was held back by Trotz and his linemates. Wahlstrom has a good chance of being elite offensively , he looks like he can score 30-35 goals in his prime. Raty is an A level prospect , calling him meh is insane. Isles do not have a good prospect pool , but he's one prospect that has a top line ceiling.
Aug. 15, 2022 at 2:14 p.m.
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OK, name me a “star” forward that doesn’t put up ppg production? They simply don’t exist.

Pelech & Pulock have great defensive metrics, and good (not great) offensive numbers. But I’ll grant they are better than I first thought.

Wahlstrom may score 25 goals if he’s used properly, but Raty is better than his draft selection …a lot of buts and ifs.

Maybe makes sense given the teams we support and to each his own - I prefer offense (elite offense especially) over defense. Not one player on the isles (Dobson aside as he may yet reach elite offense levels) is currently or projects to be elite offensively. Good to great goalie and good to great top 4 d but otherwise a lot of older players that are…meh, and a few prospects coming up that are …meh.
Time will tell, I guess.


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