I personally don't think Sandin has done anything to warrant a 1 year 2 million contract. For that amount at least we can have a reliable penalty killer in Holl....

Oilers decline and dont want your AHL defenseman.

Maybe a 3rd for Kerfoot and idk if any teams even want Holl

I think a 1 year 2 mil is decent, maybe a hair to much but you can kinda go off Kylington's 2x2.5 contract he just signed.

I disagree. Kylignton is 25 and has 160+ games under his belt. And 12 playoff games where he was decent.
Sandin has a very small sample size to work with. And his limited playoff performances would warrant nothing above a QO.

Sandin is a solid offensive defenseman, him and kylington have similar even defensive numbers (although kylingtons strength of comp is higher), but sandins offensive numbers heavily outweigh kylingtons, 2 million for sandin is not bad at all, especially for a year.

A second for Holl? Let’s be realistic..

That’s funny coming from an oilers fan . Your d corps is in need of improvement. Not saying Holl is the answer but he’s better than your bottom pair, possibly pairs.
Plus it ‘ll carry on the tradition of oil taking on players leaf’s can’t (or won’t) afford

Broberg is fantastic. Holl in know way is an improvement. You should keep him if he is so good. Which he isnt and every single leafs fan is trying to dump him. Send him to the AHL

Broberg? Never heard of him - but checked him out, he barely played last year. If you can’t get minutes on the oiler d corps, you can’t be that good. I don’t watch the oilers that closely other than we seem to beat you pretty much every time we play (especially in your barn although it’s prob 50+% leaf fans in the building ) but I know Holl is better than Ceci and Barrie.
Oiler fans are trading Foeggle and Barrie every CF post too, both teams need to shed cap; for us it’s Kerfoot & Holl.

Caps already have McMichael and Eller and they signed Strome this off-season for the middle 6. All Kerfoot would do is further clog the forwards in DC (and further lead towards Washington losing Leason and Jonsson-Fjallby to waivers). Washington certainly would not pay a 2nd rounder for Kerfoot, even if they move someone like Eller,

Holl is certainly not better than Ceci.
Broberg is a rookie this year coming and is trending the same path as Klefbomb. So maybe you can sit Sandin and play Holl instead.
Have fun trying to get out of the first round again.

I just checked - Leafs are 13-2-2 vs oil incl 8-1 in ACC West; ouch . Maybe if we played in your powder puff division, it would be easier to get out of first round. But last I checked you’ve won as many cups as we have since McD / Matt, so no worries.

Lol, Holl is so much better than Ceci and I would rather have Holl over Barrie as well. Even Bouchard hasn't impressed that much. Holl could likely be your top RD. You're funny

He's older and played a more prominent role than Sandin who is still lower on the depth chart.

They are moving him because they want to make room for Sandin. That in no way makes him and AHL player especially for a team with perhaps the 2nd weakest right defence in the league. Only Vancouver has a worse right side.

Huge words coming from a fanbase hanging their hats on beating the powerhouse LA Kings who wouldn't have come close to making the playoffs anywhere but the Pacific and then beating the forever no shows in the playoffs the Flames. What happened when you actually played a good team? Oh year Colorado embarrassed you.

I will say, the Oilers did make a couple of decent moves but you still will live and die off McDavid. He goes down long term, I am not sure you'll make the playoffs. Downright poor defence and your bottom 6 is still well below average. Campbell definitely won't be as good as you hope he will be. TO was the 4th or 5th best team in the league last year and did it with the 27th ranked goaltending.

I love how winning a round is now mount Everest to so many fans on here v

Edmonton has a better top 9 than the leaf's imo, D-core is actually way better then last year, especially if broberg plays well. Much better goaltending then last ear aswell. edmonton is one of few teams to actually improve, while keeping big keys pieces (kane, pulju, yamo).

I ain't trying to pick a fight, but to say Edmonton isn't a good team is just silly. You can't predict how a player/goalie is gonna do in a less stressful franchise, I believe many leaf fans said the same about hyman, and he was nothing but a stud this year. I'd feel 10 times more confident going against the avs with this group then last years.

I don’t think anyone is acting the oilers aren’t good; I have them winning the pacific. Maybe I chirped them a little bit. but just pushing back on the rudiculous comment that Holl is an AHLer. Agree to disagree on top 9 (Leaf’s slightly better imo) but it’s close so can see argument against.
Not sure how you say your D are better - they are bringing back the same guys? Relying on a rookie seems overly optimistic.
I hope Campbell works out (I think I speak for most leaf fans in saying great dude), but he had great first half, horrible second half and so so I. playoffs. Just not worth 5x$5 imo.
Forwards a wash, Leaf’s D is better and goalies - slight edge to Oil, but Murray’s ceiling (IF he can reach it🤞) is higher than soupy’s

Ah yes, 5 win matt murray. I never said holl was an AHLer, nor did I say edm's d core was better. But toronto lacks hevy on lw, and rw depth. Hollaway- nuge/mcleod -puljujarvi is a solid 3rd line. I don'tsee how torontos top 9 is better at all. Their first line is close with edmontons, but drats second line isn't comparable to Tavares, and their third line is nowhere near edmontons. Skinner is also a solid young goalie, I don't see how that tandem is worse than murray/samsonov when they have doubele the pressure on them. Nor are we relying on a rookie defensmen playing bottom pairing minutes, do you expect him to never get a full season in? I guess we'll see.

Edmonton doesn't have a top 9. They have a top 6 and nothing

If you’re splitting up drai and McD our first line is better. McD and Matt are so close and Marner >> than Kane or Hyman. If Drai is on second line, give you the edge (slightly). But our 3rd line was solid last year . Nudge should be on your second line (or JT / Willy styles is better than your second line) and Holloway is a rookie and McLeod barely even makes our team., maybe scratch / 4th line . Nah, I take the Leafs offense over yours - we beat you in every stat - gf, xgf, hdcf

anything to back that up? At all? Your just baiting people. Holloway/ McLeod -nuge- puljujarvi is a good third line. Shows how much you know lmao

I just said - check the stats. We have better offense (and defense) metrics and we played in the toughest division.