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SENth Jones

Created by: Kyle_Davidson
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 17, 2022
Published: Aug. 17, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks
Team Explanation
Senth Jones
Trades
1.
CHI
  1. Bernard-Docker, Jacob
  2. Sokolov, Egor
  3. Järventie, Roby
  4. Zaitsev, Nikita
  5. 2023 1st round pick (OTT)
  6. 2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
Additional Details:
2023 is top 3 protected

2024 2nd becomes a first if sens make playoffs in 2023. If not, higher of the two picks they own.
OTT
  1. Jones, Seth ($2,500,000 retained)
  2. Lafferty, Sam
  3. Beaudin, Nicolas
  4. 2024 7th round pick (CHI)
Buyouts
  • Brett Connolly: $1,166,667
  • Henrik Borgström: $83,334
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Seth Jones: $2,500,000 (26.32%)
Recapture Fees
  • Duncan Keith: $5,538,462
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$82,500,000$70,630,129$237,500$865,000$11,869,871
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Athanasiou, Andreas
$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Domi, Max
$3,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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Kane, Patrick
$10,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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Reichel, Lukas
$925,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
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Toews, Jonathan
$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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Raddysh, Taylor
$758,333
RW
RFA - 2
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Sokolov, Egor
$818,333
LW
RFA - 1
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Johnson, Tyler
$5,000,000
RW, C
NTC
UFA - 2
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Kurashev, Philipp
$750,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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Järventie, Roby
$894,167
LW
RFA - 3
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Blackwell, Colin
$1,200,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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Katchouk, Boris
$758,333
LW
RFA - 2
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McCabe, Jake
$4,000,000
LD/RD
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UFA - 3
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Murphy, Connor
$4,400,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
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Mrázek, Petr
$3,800,000
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UFA - 2
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Jones, Caleb
$1,350,000
LD
RFA - 1
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Bernard-Docker, Jacob
$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
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Stalock, Alex
$750,000
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UFA - 1
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Stillman, Riley
$1,350,000
LD
RFA - 2
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Zaitsev, Nikita
$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Johnson, Jack
$950,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Khaira, Jujhar
$975,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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Hardman, Mike
$800,000 ($0)
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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Entwistle, Mackenzie
$800,000 ($0)
RW, C
RFA - 2

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Aug. 17 at 2:50 p.m.
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Seth Jones is over hated and underrated due to his contract, I still don't see Ottawa giving up that much for him
Aug. 17 at 3:01 p.m.
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Quoting: gary_gobbler
Seth Jones is over hated and underrated due to his contract, I still don't see Ottawa giving up that much for him


Even with Chicago retaining 2.5 for his entire contract?
Aug. 17 at 3:09 p.m.
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Send don't entertain that, Jone's contract really hinders his value. The only way the hawks move him is if they take a really really bad contract back.
Aug. 17 at 3:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Kyle_Davidson
Even with Chicago retaining 2.5 for his entire contract?


Yeah well sorry because there's no way, That Kyle Davidson is eating $20,000,000 over 8 seasons. And Seth Jones already made it abundantly clear that he doesn't want to play in Canada.
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Aug. 17 at 3:18 p.m.
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They aren't getting more for Jones than they did for the Cat
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Aug. 17 at 3:20 p.m.
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Garth
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Quoting: Kyle_Davidson
Even with Chicago retaining 2.5 for his entire contract?


yes, its not a good contract. I'd say jones value is 5.5-6ish. and that's generous
Aug. 17 at 3:22 p.m.
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Quoting: gary_gobbler
yes, its not a good contract. I'd say jones value is 5.5-6ish. and that's generous


Nah, Jones is easily worth $7M based on last season and that was on a bad team with not great partners for him. Something didn't work well in Columbus for him but the guy clearly is talented and demonstrated what he can do in a new system...albeit one filled with holes.

https://www.secondcityhockey.com/2022/7/5/23195418/chicago-blackhawks-2021-22-nhl-season-review-recaps-seth-jones-analysis-stats-breakdown
Aug. 17 at 3:26 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Nah, Jones is easily worth $7M based on last season and that was on a bad team with not great partners for him. Something didn't work well in Columbus for him but the guy clearly is talented and demonstrated what he can do in a new system...albeit one filled with holes.

https://www.secondcityhockey.com/2022/7/5/23195418/chicago-blackhawks-2021-22-nhl-season-review-recaps-seth-jones-analysis-stats-breakdown


I wouldn't say 7, 7 million after his 17-18 year in Columbus? absolutely.
Aug. 17 at 3:28 p.m.
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Quoting: gary_gobbler
I wouldn't say 7, 7 million after his 17-18 year in Columbus? absolutely.


This past season as well. Something didn't click for him in Columbus under Torts is my guess...the guy can be really challenging to play for
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Aug. 17 at 4:05 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
This past season as well. Something didn't click for him in Columbus under Torts is my guess...the guy can be really challenging to play for


He only played for Torts in Columbus, so even if he was challenging to play for, the kid did a great job for most of his time with CBJ. It was really just those last two seasons that were a dip in production for him. Even then, Jones was and is a solid top-pair D-Man, for sure. Been saying that even when he was traded from CBJ.

Overpaid? Probably.

Will he always be haunted by the timing of the trade and what CHI gave up to get him, even if that falls on Bowman? Absolutely.

And yeah, Jones made clear he wanted to go to a large market when he told CBJ he wasn't going to re-sign. Not sure he backtracks on that after one year to go to OTT for the next eight.
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Aug. 17 at 9:02 p.m.
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that’s an obscene trade lmao. even if the 1st were to move Zaitsev, Jones is absolutely not worth 3 good prospects and a 2nd
Aug. 18 at 9:53 a.m.
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Honestly, I would accept this.

1. This is Seth Jones for 7M. He isnt worth 9.5, but I think he is worth 7

2. His signing bonus is already paid. The whopper 9.25M

3. It gets us out of Zaitsev

4. It gets us out of Zaitsev

5. OTT would have absolute certainty on D for the first time in a long time. Chabot, Jones, Sanderson, Zub.
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