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Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 17, 2022
Published: Aug. 17, 2022
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Free Agent Signings
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3$925,000
Trades
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VAN
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Knies, Matthew [Reserve List]
  3. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Miller, J.T. ($2,625,000 retained)
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  1. 2023 4th round pick (DET)
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  1. Pearson, Tanner
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CHI
  1. Dickinson, Jason
  2. 2025 5th round pick (VAN)
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VAN
  1. Bernard-Docker, Jacob
  2. Zaitsev, Nikita
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Myers, Tyler ($3,000,000 retained)
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
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VAN
  1. Mukhamadullin, Shakir
  2. Tatar, Tomas
  3. 2023 1st round pick (NJD)
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  1. Garland, Conor
  2. 2023 4th round pick (NYR)
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UFA - 3
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Aug. 17, 2022 at 2:55 p.m.
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The JT Miller trade is going to get ripped (by leafs fans) but I think its extremely fair.
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Aug. 17, 2022 at 2:56 p.m.
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Devils take that at the deadline. Muk is playing in Russia this year and probably the AHL next year. He will never be a top pairing player.
Aug. 17, 2022 at 2:59 p.m.
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Gotta think all teams except Sens decline.
Aug. 17, 2022 at 3:01 p.m.
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Quoting: User123409871234
The JT Miller trade is going to get ripped (by leafs fans) but I think its extremely fair.


I disagree that is a lot to give up for one season of miller.
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Aug. 17, 2022 at 3:02 p.m.
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Quoting: python3504
I disagree that is a lot to give up for one season of miller.


a good prospect and a 1st?
Aug. 17, 2022 at 3:03 p.m.
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Much rather have Niemela then Knies. I imagine Toronto may also rather keep Knies anyways
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Aug. 17, 2022 at 3:06 p.m.
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Edited Aug. 17, 2022 at 3:14 p.m.
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Gotta think all teams except Sens decline.


I think especially the Senators decline. Myers no chance he's even with the retention JBD and a 2 for a 3rd better than Zaitsev
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Aug. 17, 2022 at 3:08 p.m.
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Quoting: vapodz
a good prospect and a 1st?


yes, i could see a first and maybe a B prospect.
Aug. 17, 2022 at 3:12 p.m.
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Quoting: python3504
I disagree that is a lot to give up for one season of miller.


So what you are saying is that Giroux is a better player than Miller, or that you just think that the leafs dont have to pay as much for players when trading?
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Aug. 17, 2022 at 3:30 p.m.
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yes, i could see a first and maybe a B prospect.


Knies is a B prospect
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Aug. 17, 2022 at 3:32 p.m.
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So what you are saying is that Giroux is a better player than Miller, or that you just think that the leafs dont have to pay as much for players when trading?


oh i dont think the leafs should pay less than anyone else but i also dont think the leafs should dump those assets into a year of miller.
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Aug. 17, 2022 at 3:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Warpbox
Knies is a B prospect


nah buddy.
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Aug. 17, 2022 at 3:53 p.m.
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Your talking about close to the Eichel package for one year of Miller who ends up what being Toronto’s 4 or 5th best forward. I think Toronto says no all day long.
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Aug. 17, 2022 at 3:57 p.m.
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nah buddy.


Lolz. I was genuinely curious about how Knies was doing in the WJC so far, just because of the Leafs hype around him, so I checked out Twitter yesterday.

Apparently throwing a body check was worthy of a bajillion re-tweets in hockey land. Hilarious.

Prospects are peasants and rebuilding teams-The Leafs aren’t one of those things, and it makes me laugh when prospect huggers get so hung up because some talking head compared them to someone from 10 years ago that was good. The likelihood that a late 1st and Knies ever becomes anything close to JT Miller is hilariously low, but hey, there’s never been a prospect that hasn’t disappointed, so keep ‘em!
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Aug. 17, 2022 at 3:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Warpbox
Knies is a B prospect


Think that is a little silly. The trade just makes no sense for Toronto. Upgrading kerfoot to Miller for two pieces that dubas wouldn't move alone for a rental. Whether the value is fair or not is fairly pointless.
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Aug. 17, 2022 at 3:59 p.m.
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Your talking about close to the Eichel package for one year of Miller who ends up what being Toronto’s 4 or 5th best forward. I think Toronto says no all day long.


Comparing a late 1st, Knies and a year of Kerfoot to the Eichel package is absolutely the boldest strategy that I’ve seen today…
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Aug. 17, 2022 at 4:02 p.m.
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Lolz. I was genuinely curious about how Knies was doing in the WJC so far, just because of the Leafs hype around him, so I checked out Twitter yesterday.

Think the chance is a lot higher than you think. The value for one year of inflated JT over the potential in those two futures is not a landslide win. The trade is probably fair but just not a smart move.
Apparently throwing a body check was worthy of a bajillion re-tweets in hockey land. Hilarious.

Prospects are peasants and rebuilding teams-The Leafs aren’t one of those things, and it makes me laugh when prospect huggers get so hung up because some talking head compared them to someone from 10 years ago that was good. The likelihood that a late 1st and Knies ever becomes anything close to JT Miller is hilariously low, but hey, there’s never been a prospect that hasn’t disappointed, so keep ‘em!
Aug. 17, 2022 at 4:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
Comparing a late 1st, Knies and a year of Kerfoot to the Eichel package is absolutely the boldest strategy that I’ve seen today…


He did say close. 1st for a 1st is a wash. Prospect, roster player. Then a 2nd for a 3rd. Tuch had term and the 2nd for a 3rd is the only real difference.

My argument isn't that the trade is unfair. Only that it isn't smart.
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Aug. 17, 2022 at 4:37 p.m.
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Quoting: GenXHockey
Think that is a little silly. The trade just makes no sense for Toronto. Upgrading kerfoot to Miller for two pieces that dubas wouldn't move alone for a rental. Whether the value is fair or not is fairly pointless.


Dubas moved a first for rental Foligno. Rental JT Miller makes the leafs way, way better
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Aug. 17, 2022 at 4:40 p.m.
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nah buddy.


An A prospect is a top 10 pick. Someone that you immediately look at and go “that kids gonna be a star” Knies potential is a “maybe a top 6 guy.” Not a star. That’s a B prospect
Aug. 17, 2022 at 5:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
Comparing a late 1st, Knies and a year of Kerfoot to the Eichel package is absolutely the boldest strategy that I’ve seen today…

When the trade was made VGK was assumed to be a late 1st, Krebs was VGK top prospect Knies is arguably TML top prospect but yeah I would say Krebs had a little more value than Knies, Tuch was coming of an injury and had a 33 pt season and is a 1 time 50pt scorer, Kerfoot is coming off a 50pt season. Yes the VGK trade had more value but Eichel had what 5yrs left on his deal. The values aren’t super far apart imo.
Aug. 17, 2022 at 8:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Warpbox
An A prospect is a top 10 pick. Someone that you immediately look at and go “that kids gonna be a star” Knies potential is a “maybe a top 6 guy.” Not a star. That’s a B prospect

Aren’t you the guy that pumps hoglander (23 goals in 2 seasons) as a prime prospect? And you’re dumping on Knies tears of joy.
GenX Hockey nailed it - Leaf’s need players on el contracts that can contribute in coming years ; why would we move our best or second best prospect for one year rental of miller? He’s not that good and we don’t really need him; top 5 offense as it is. And Why are canuckle fans so anxious to trade him? Because you know you’re a bubble team with him this year and he’s walking
Aug. 17, 2022 at 8:34 p.m.
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Devils decline...Mukhamadullin is alone worth walking away.

And Knies is probably a top-25 prospect. Firmly an "A prospect" in my book
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Aug. 17, 2022 at 8:45 p.m.
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Aren’t you the guy that pumps hoglander (23 goals in 2 seasons) as a prime prospect? And you’re dumping on Knies tears of joy.
GenX Hockey nailed it - Leaf’s need players on el contracts that can contribute in coming years ; why would we move our best or second best prospect for one year rental of miller? He’s not that good and we don’t really need him; top 5 offense as it is. And Why are canuckle fans so anxious to trade him? Because you know you’re a bubble team with him this year and he’s walking


He absolutely is that good. And, for the record, Hoglander is not someone equivalent to an A prospect. He has potential to be a top 6 player but not a star.

Also, “you’re so anxious to trade him because you know you’re a bubble team and he’ll walk for nothing.” Yeah. That’s exactly why they’d trade him. That’s not a “gotcha” moment. That’s like saying “the leafs are trading picks and prospects to get better because they think it can help them win” like yes, obviously that’s why
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Aug. 17, 2022 at 8:45 p.m.
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He did say close. 1st for a 1st is a wash. Prospect, roster player. Then a 2nd for a 3rd. Tuch had term and the 2nd for a 3rd is the only real difference.

My argument isn't that the trade is unfair. Only that it isn't smart.


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