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No one saw this coming

Created by: TheRealisticGuy
Team: 2022-23 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 18, 2022
Published: Aug. 18, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
COL
  1. Nelson, Brock
Additional Details:
COL gets a solid 2C with terms and who can score goals
NYI
  1. Girard, Samuel
Additional Details:
Islanders LHD is set for years with Pelech Girard Romanov
Islanders signed Kadri 7 X 7
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$81,265,000$25,000$3,562,500$1,235,000
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 7
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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$912,500$912,500 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$908,333$908,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 5
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$987,500$987,500
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$800,000$800,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C
RFA - 1

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Aug. 18, 2022 at 8:40 a.m.
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I can't see the Isles trading Nelson - they've got other options for cap dumps ahead of him: Bailey, Beauvillier, Pageau.
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Aug. 18, 2022 at 8:52 a.m.
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Quoting: NMAvsFan
I can't see the Isles trading Nelson - they've got other options for cap dumps ahead of him: Bailey, Beauvillier, Pageau.


1M, cap dump? fair trade Isles get younger
Aug. 18, 2022 at 8:54 a.m.
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I'm not sure why the Islanders would trade for Girard after trading 13 OA for Romanov. I doubt they want one of them as 3LD.

Also, the only reason Colorado would trade Girard is for cap reasons and you added cap in this trade
Aug. 18, 2022 at 8:55 a.m.
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I wouldn't do this from the isles POV it forces Romanov down for Multiple Years and honestly I think Nelson is just as good as Kadri. Kadri is a glorified 2C who had one amazing year on a team where everyone had an amazing year.
Aug. 18, 2022 at 9:04 a.m.
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No thanks from NYI. Girard is too expensive to play on the bottom pair, where he'd presumably play since Romanov is likely pairing with Dobson.
Aug. 18, 2022 at 9:19 a.m.
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No thanks from NYI. Girard is too expensive to play on the bottom pair, where he'd presumably play since Romanov is likely pairing with Dobson.


if you think Romanov is a better Dman to play over Girard, I got some bad news for you
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Aug. 18, 2022 at 9:31 a.m.
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Avs pass. IF they trade Girard I'd expect them to be looking for someone younger. If they can't find that they'll likely stand pat and try Newhook/Rantanen/Landeskog/Compher all at 2C.
Aug. 18, 2022 at 9:49 a.m.
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I think, like the previous commenters, that there just might be a reason no one saw this coming.
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Aug. 18, 2022 at 9:59 a.m.
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Quoting: TheFastAndTheFleuryous
I think, like the previous commenters, that there just might be a reason no one saw this coming.


99% of the trades made here don’t happen, so we need to try something new that kind of make sense
Aug. 18, 2022 at 10:14 a.m.
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GO KNIGHTS GO
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Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
99% of the trades made here don’t happen, so we need to try something new that kind of make sense


99% seems a little low to me laugh
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Aug. 18, 2022 at 10:18 a.m.
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This is compelling. The only reason I don’t think COL does this is right there on the depth chart. MacDermid playing every night in the 3rd pairing is a brutal. Love Dermy but his role with the Avs is clearly defined 13th forward plays when the other team is notoriously hit heavy or as emergency dman. I would seriously consider, and if they had either Barron or Helleson now it would be a slam dunk. Really creative, good post.
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Aug. 18, 2022 at 10:35 a.m.
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This is compelling. The only reason I don’t think COL does this is right there on the depth chart. MacDermid playing every night in the 3rd pairing is a brutal. Love Dermy but his role with the Avs is clearly defined 13th forward plays when the other team is notoriously hit heavy or as emergency dman. I would seriously consider, and if they had either Barron or Helleson now it would be a slam dunk. Really creative, good post.


Adding 1m in cap space for next year is a bit tough as well, it would already be quite tight as it is with Girard in the fold. You swap out a 5m aav for 6m aav. Then you really are squeezing on one of newhook or Byram on their next contracts.

Idea this year is interesting, long term, I dunno
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Aug. 18, 2022 at 12:48 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
if you think Romanov is a better Dman to play over Girard, I got some bad news for you


That's not at all what I said. What I meant was I presume Romanov was acquired to play with Dobson, which would make him a 2nd pairing defenseman at worst. If we got Girard, that would put him on our third pair with Mayfield. $5M on a third-pairing defenseman isn't the best way to allocate dollars, especially given our forward group.
Aug. 18, 2022 at 12:55 p.m.
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Quoting: slapshot723
That's not at all what I said. What I meant was I presume Romanov was acquired to play with Dobson, which would make him a 2nd pairing defenseman at worst. If we got Girard, that would put him on our third pair with Mayfield. $5M on a third-pairing defenseman isn't the best way to allocate dollars, especially given our forward group.


Kadri to CGY so yes Romanov-Dobson for years to come
Aug. 18, 2022 at 12:56 p.m.
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Kadri to CGY so yes Romanov-Dobson for years to come


One has nothing to do with the other and I'm more than okay with not getting Kadri at that price.
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