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Internal solutions at LW and trading expiring assets

Created by: jonh514
Team: 2024-25 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 18, 2022
Published: Aug. 18, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
I was surprised to see Mysak playing LW and not Center and Roy playing LW not RW at the WJC. If they are slotting in there in that tournament then they can slot in there for the Habs.

I traded for Jones because Chicago will be a few years behind us and they may also be searching for cap flexibility. Jones has a lot of years left for a rebuilding team. Needed to make the salary work though so I am looking for 1/3 retention.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$950,000
3$950,000
3$950,000
2$950,000
3$950,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,000,000
8$7,500,000
3$3,500,000
3$900,000
2$1,000,000
3$1,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,250,000
2$1,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Fantilli, Adam
3$950,000
Trades
MTL
  1. Jones, Seth ($3,000,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Habs take over Jones contract and trade a few B-/C+ pieces for him
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$84,500,000$65,576,666$0$4,035,000$18,923,334
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 6
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 7
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$950,000$950,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$835,000$835,000 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$828,333$828,333 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Fantilli, Adam
$950,000$950,000
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
G
RFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
RFA
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$900,000$900,000
LD/RD
RFA
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
G
UFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD/RD
UFA
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$950,000$950,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 2

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Aug. 18, 2022 at 9:05 a.m.
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Hurricane Waddell
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You want Chicago to do what???
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Aug. 18, 2022 at 9:11 a.m.
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Seth Jones with 3 Mil retained gets a lot more than that he's a Great player just on a terrible contract. If he was on a 6 to 7 mill contract I'd say it's fair value.
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Aug. 18, 2022 at 9:22 a.m.
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
Seth Jones with 3 Mil retained gets a lot more than that he's a Great player just on a terrible contract. If he was on a 6 to 7 mill contract I'd say it's fair value.


I would say he is probably worth around 7.5, on an awful team last year he was still relatively productive. His advanced numbers wont blow you away but no one on the hawks would. I think he is still a decent top pair d man for most teams but he would be an elite second pair guy on a team who already has an elite top pair.
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Aug. 18, 2022 at 9:24 a.m.
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Quoting: DangleCat
I would say he is probably worth around 7.5, on an awful team last year he was still relatively productive. His advanced numbers wont blow you away but no one on the hawks would. I think he is still a decent top pair d man for most teams but he would be an elite second pair guy on a team who already has an elite top pair.


Agree
Aug. 18, 2022 at 9:28 a.m.
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Don't get why you're surprised, any center can play on the wings.
Aug. 18, 2022 at 9:45 a.m.
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“ Habs take over Jones contract and trade a few B-/C+ pieces for him”. Conveniently leaving out the $18m of retained salary cap involved as well.
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Aug. 18, 2022 at 10:48 a.m.
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I would say he is probably worth around 7.5, on an awful team last year he was still relatively productive. His advanced numbers wont blow you away but no one on the hawks would. I think he is still a decent top pair d man for most teams but he would be an elite second pair guy on a team who already has an elite top pair.


They were pretty damn good last season....again on a bad team.

https://www.secondcityhockey.com/2022/7/5/23195418/chicago-blackhawks-2021-22-nhl-season-review-recaps-seth-jones-analysis-stats-breakdown
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Aug. 18, 2022 at 10:51 a.m.
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
Seth Jones with 3 Mil retained gets a lot more than that he's a Great player just on a terrible contract. If he was on a 6 to 7 mill contract I'd say it's fair value.


Everyone has this idea that he is on a terrible contract and that he is an awful player. The issue with him is MOSTLY about how much Bowman gave up to acquire him when we were supposed to be rebuilding and how far CHI was set back because of that trade. He might be a bit overpaid RIGHT NOW, but in a few years $9.5M for a top pairing RHD will look pretty routine.
Aug. 18, 2022 at 10:56 a.m.
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
Agree


Mostly I think people just love rubbing everything they possibly can in CHI fans faces. But, relax everyone, our faces are already covered in s#!t, so you can stop now. lol
Aug. 18, 2022 at 11:00 a.m.
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Mostly I think people just love rubbing everything they possibly can in CHI fans faces. But, relax everyone, our faces are already covered in s#!t, so you can stop now. lol


Like JaredofLondon in this thread talking about Kane's personal issues from 10 years ago as if it's relative today! LMAO

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/631483?post_id=3528943
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Aug. 18, 2022 at 11:12 a.m.
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Like JaredofLondon in this thread talking about Kane's personal issues from 10 years ago as if it's relative today! LMAO

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/631483?post_id=3528943


Right? Jared can be such a tool. I see people bring that stuff up all the time, especially NY state based fans. It's like, do I really need to dig up all the facts surrounding those cases to present to you and defend him all over again? Some of that stuff was inexcusable but not that outrageous. But the rape accusations, if you look at all the available facts, it was a total hoax, the girl and her mom were trying to get money. Even the judge, who's past I dug into pretty deeply and his policies seem to align with very progressive forward thinking ideals, essentially said that their accusation was baseless and fraught with reasonable doubt.
 
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