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Habs final moves

Created by: JeffGorton
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 18, 2022
Published: Aug. 19, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
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My thinking for these trades

Habs want 1st rounders, msotly 2023 but i think 2025 ones wouldnt be too bad either

Minny needs a center who can kill penalties and win faceoffs. Rossi isnt there yet. Dvorak works cap wise (might need to add a contract like Jost or Goligoski) and has term but not too long

Winnipeg still have a pretty good roster and should go for it. All they are missing is another top 6 winger. Anderson fits their system and type of play. No way the Jets actually tear everything down becasue that means traduing Ehlers and Connor
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Dach, Kirby2$3,000,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2023 1st round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Norlinder, Mattias
  3. 2023 4th round pick (PIT)
  4. 2024 7th round pick (EDM)
2.
MTL
  1. 2023 1st round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Anderson, Josh
Buyouts
  • Karl Alzner: $833,333
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$62,732,499$1,132,500$1,357,500$19,767,501
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Caufield, Cole
$880,833
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Suzuki, Nick
$7,875,000
C
UFA - 8
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Dadonov, Evgeni
$5,000,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
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Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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Dach, Kirby
$3,000,000
C, RW
RFA - 4
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Gallagher, Brendan
$6,500,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 5
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Pitlick, Rem
$1,100,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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Evans, Jake
$1,700,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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Hoffman, Mike
$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Armia, Joel
$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël
$825,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Ylönen, Jesse
$880,833
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Matheson, Michael
$4,875,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
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Savard, David
$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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Allen, Jake
$2,875,000
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UFA - 1
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Edmundson, Joel
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Bowey, Madison
$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Montembeault, Samuel
$1,000,000
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UFA - 2
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Harris, Jordan
$842,500
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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Wideman, Chris
$762,500
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Pezzetta, Michael
$750,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Monahan, Sean
$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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Schueneman, Corey
$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Price, Carey
$10,500,000
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NMC
UFA - 4
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Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Aug. 19 at 12:30 a.m.
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Minnesota has $4.3 million in cap space right now, with three forward slots to be filled. Even assuming that two of those slots went to entry-level contracts, you'd have to retain 50% on Dvorak to make this deal work.
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Aug. 19 at 12:42 a.m.
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Winnipeg holding onto that 1st like a golden ticket, close to a bubble team unless everything breaks right. Not sure if anderson moves the needle enough, probably need a d man also to have a shot at contention.
Aug. 19 at 12:53 a.m.
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Did you forget that Anderson has a terrible contract? Wheeler had a better season than he did (almost double the points) and I doubt anyone would move Wheeler for a first...even if the Jets retained 2.5M

No player making 5.5M and getting 35 points is worth a first
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Aug. 19 at 1:47 a.m.
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Minnesota declines . Frankly they don't need Christian Dvorak. You adding some B or C D prospect when Minnesota is stacked with D does nothing
Aug. 19 at 5:16 a.m.
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Jets Decline
Anderson isn’t worth a first and isn’t needed
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Aug. 19 at 10:19 a.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Minnesota has $4.3 million in cap space right now, with three forward slots to be filled. Even assuming that two of those slots went to entry-level contracts, you'd have to retain 50% on Dvorak to make this deal work.


Are you unable to read? Cause i say that in the description and someone like Jost is probably moved
Aug. 19 at 10:19 a.m.
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Did you forget that Anderson has a terrible contract? Wheeler had a better season than he did (almost double the points) and I doubt anyone would move Wheeler for a first...even if the Jets retained 2.5M

No player making 5.5M and getting 35 points is worth a first


Wheeler is also ancient and a locker room cancer
Aug. 19 at 10:30 a.m.
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Are you unable to read? Cause i say that in the description and someone like Jost is probably moved


No, you didn't say "probably," you said "might" need to add a contract. The word "might" means "possibly." My point was that it's a certainty that the trade you propose is impossible: either Jost has to come back, or you have to retain 50% on Dvorak, or Minnesota has to make some other move.
Aug. 19 at 10:36 a.m.
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Are you unable to read? Cause i say that in the description and someone like Jost is probably moved


And Minnesota still decline
Aug. 19 at 10:40 a.m.
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Anderson is a borderline cap dump. There's a far better chance Montreal needs to add a first to dump him than there is that someone is silly enough to offer a first for him.
Aug. 19 at 12:19 p.m.
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Wheeler is also ancient and a locker room cancer


Who cares about ancient if he still produces. I care about production
Aug. 19 at 12:30 p.m.
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Are you unable to read? Cause i say that in the description and someone like Jost is probably moved


So Minnesota turns Jost at 1X$2M into Dvorak at 3x$4.45M and now only has $1.8M to fill the three forward slots they need to (literally impossible with a $750K minimum). Plus, nothing like carrying that extra cap for 2023-24 when the buyout penalties go up an extra $2M and you have to re-sign Matt Boldy and either re-sign or replace Matt Dumba, Freddie Gaudreau, Filip Gustavsson, and more!

It's a bad trade for Minnesota, flat out.
 
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