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LEAFS BUILD A TIME MACHINE AND NEVER HIRE DUBAS

Created by: TheTypicalLeafsFan
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 20, 2022
Published: Aug. 20, 2022
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CAR
  1. Nylander, William
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Canes wanted to do this deal but Dubass said no
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  1. Holl, Justin
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Kyles lover is gone
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EDM
    Had interest in the leafs but Dubass doesn't like him
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    TBL
      Would have choose Toronto if the leafs had smart management
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      TOR
      1. Gibson, John ($400,000 retained)
      ANA
      1. Robertson, Nicholas
      2. Simmonds, Wayne
      3. Woll, Joseph
      4. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
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      Another trade Dubas declined
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      Aug. 20, 2022 at 6:03 a.m.
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      Most of this is a complete fabrication. Prove otherwise with links that aren’t from hockeybuzz.
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      Aug. 20, 2022 at 6:09 a.m.
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      Quoting: Kjell_Forsman
      Most of this is a complete fabrication. Prove otherwise with links that aren’t from hockeybuzz.


      Which deals would you like to see
      Aug. 20, 2022 at 6:17 a.m.
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      Those trades are made up. Particularly that Gibson one. I'd love to see a source for that one.

      Why are muzzin and Gio on this team? Dubas acquired both of them.

      Where's Zaitsev? Dubas dumped him.

      Stamkos wasn't coming to Canada that cheap.

      How did you add Kadri but not ditch kerfoot.

      Why is Brodie on the team?

      Why is Buntkng on this team?
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      Aug. 20, 2022 at 6:43 a.m.
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      The Pesce deal that didnt happen was Kapenen for Pesce

      But for the most part every thing you have on there is just made up nonsense
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      Aug. 20, 2022 at 6:47 a.m.
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      like, i get this is a joke/troll thread, but stamkos? Like, Lou was GM when Stamkos was UFA
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      Aug. 20, 2022 at 6:48 a.m.
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      Those trades are made up. Particularly that Gibson one. I'd love to see a source for that one.

      Why are muzzin and Gio on this team? Dubas acquired both of them.

      Where's Zaitsev? Dubas dumped him.

      Stamkos wasn't coming to Canada that cheap.

      How did you add Kadri but not ditch kerfoot.

      Why is Brodie on the team?

      Why is Buntkng on this team?


      the funniest part about the gibson deal is that he's been worse than Murray for a long time
      Aug. 20, 2022 at 7:05 a.m.
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      Florida wanted Andreas Johnsson and Dermott for Weegar back in 2019
      Aug. 20, 2022 at 8:10 a.m.
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      Dumb post. You can rip every gm using hindsight, but leafs have made playoffs every year dubas has been here, are a perennial top 10 team and he has added aggressively at TDL. Hasn’t worked out yet in playoffs but tough division and some tough luck.
      Farm system is decent and better than most contending teams. Dubas has shown a consistent ability to find value players (bunting, Kampf, Mikheyev, Kase).
      Covid (cap) messed with every team’s plans but I’d argue leaf’s more than most. Matthews / Marner signed just before Covid when cap was projected to increase significantly ; one year later and their cap situation would look a lot different
      Aug. 20, 2022 at 8:14 a.m.
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      Dumb post. You can rip every gm using hindsight, but leafs have made playoffs every year dubas has been here, are a perennial top 10 team and he has added aggressively at TDL. Hasn’t worked out yet in playoffs but tough division and some tough luck.
      Farm system is decent and better than most contending teams. Dubas has shown a consistent ability to find value players (bunting, Kampf, Mikheyev, Kase).
      Covid (cap) messed with every team’s plans but I’d argue leaf’s more than most. Matthews / Marner signed just before Covid when cap was projected to increase significantly ; one year later and their cap situation would look a lot different

      He also signed them to too much aav for the term they got
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      Aug. 20, 2022 at 8:21 a.m.
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      Quoting: Theozler
      He also signed them to too much aav for the term they got


      Not sure about that; Matthews just won Hart and they’re both 1st team all stars. If Covid hadn’t destroyed cap, No problem with their aav. Term is what it is. But We better resign Matthews (& Marner) but I gotta believe that’ll happen
      Aug. 20, 2022 at 8:25 a.m.
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      The rumors for the pesce deal only lived on here from leafs fans
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      Aug. 20, 2022 at 8:55 a.m.
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      I also heard back in 2018 the leafs were offering up Auston Matthews and Mitch Marner for Karl Alzner but Bergevin said he wanted real hockey players with playoff experience. Man Dubas really dodged a bullet on that one 😅
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      Aug. 20, 2022 at 9:00 a.m.
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      Not sure about that; Matthews just won Hart and they’re both 1st team all stars. If Covid hadn’t destroyed cap, No problem with their aav. Term is what it is. But We better resign Matthews (& Marner) but I gotta believe that’ll happen


      They’re worth the money it’s just those were basically top of what you’d expect for aav which every other team got 8 years when doing those
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      Aug. 20, 2022 at 9:04 a.m.
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      Yeah Nazem Kadri was never going to resign with the Leafs, He'd go to Detroit long before ever going back to Toronto.

      Zach Hyman wanted way too much, And he's not worth that contract Holland gave him.

      Nylander for Pesce deal never existed, The deal was around Kapanen for Pesce.

      Stamkos was never leaving Tampa for Toronto, That is purely laugh and not remotely close.

      The trade for Gibson is pure crap, No way Pat Verbeek would accept that mess. When he could've gotten far better offers elsewhere for him.
      Aug. 20, 2022 at 9:28 a.m.
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      I especially love the part where you add the extra 's' onto his last name, making it DubASS. Real clever stuff, high quality content.

      This whole post is ridiculous. We're in the longest period of having a competitive team in ~20 years, and all you can think is "THE GM SUCKS". ****ing delusional. And why do we have Muzzin, Gio, Kampf, Bunting, Kerfoot, Brodie, Jarnkrok, NAK, and Samsonov. If Dubas wasn't GM, surely whoever is in his place would have entirely different depth players.
      Aug. 20, 2022 at 9:43 a.m.
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      Quoting: Theozler
      He also signed them to too much aav for the term they got


      The Leafs and MLSE have a bunch of high priced executives. Shanahan and his execs seemed to be "Missing in Action" during contract negotiations. Obviously contract negotiations is not a strong point for Dubas but I blame total Leaf management for not getting more reasonable deals for some players. Other comparables were out there but for some reason the Leafs paid a "hometown premium"
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      Aug. 20, 2022 at 9:53 a.m.
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      Yeah Nazem Kadri was never going to resign with the Leafs, He'd go to Detroit long before ever going back to Toronto.

      Zach Hyman wanted way too much, And he's not worth that contract Holland gave him.

      Nylander for Pesce deal never existed, The deal was around Kapanen for Pesce.

      Stamkos was never leaving Tampa for Toronto, That is purely laugh and not remotely close.

      The trade for Gibson is pure crap, No way Pat Verbeek would accept that mess. When he could've gotten far better offers elsewhere for him.


      Stamkos clearly wanted to know what offers were out there, as he waited until he could talk to other teams before resigning. So he was at least considering it
      Aug. 20, 2022 at 10:04 a.m.
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      Sources:

      Just Trust me bro
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      Aug. 20, 2022 at 10:34 a.m.
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      Quoting: JaredOfLondon
      the funniest part about the gibson deal is that he's been worse than Murray for a long time


      That’s not remotely true lmao
      Aug. 20, 2022 at 10:37 a.m.
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      Quoting: TheTypicalLeafsFan
      Which deals would you like to see


      Lou was GM when Stamkos was FA.
      Aug. 20, 2022 at 10:39 a.m.
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      Quoting: Theozler
      He also signed them to too much aav for the term they got


      That's just mob talk. The term argument will be blown up as soon as Matthews resigns on his next deal.
      Aug. 20, 2022 at 10:41 a.m.
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      Quoting: kster34
      Not sure about that; Matthews just won Hart and they’re both 1st team all stars. If Covid hadn’t destroyed cap, No problem with their aav. Term is what it is. But We better resign Matthews (& Marner) but I gotta believe that’ll happen


      Matthews and Dubas said longer term was discussed but the average would have been higher and they compromised. Matthews said at the time he loves it in TO and wants to stay. Next summer he'll resign on an 8 year deal. And everyone will have to come up with a new reason why TO will never be good despite them being really good.
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      Aug. 20, 2022 at 10:43 a.m.
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      Quoting: vikhodush
      The rumors for the pesce deal only lived on here from leafs fans


      I don't recall any real pesce rumours beyond cane fans wanting Nylander plus. The real rumor was Canes asked about Nylander and Dubas said Slavin was the cost. And it never went anywhere. Because Pesce is just a 2nd pair defensive defenceman. He's not that special.
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      Aug. 20, 2022 at 10:44 a.m.
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      Quoting: Theozler
      They’re worth the money it’s just those were basically top of what you’d expect for aav which every other team got 8 years when doing those


      Nope that's made up troll talk. Matthews signed for less cap percentage than loads of players. An 8 year deal would have been the same percentage as McDavid which at the time would have been over 13 million. They compromised and it came in shorter.
      Aug. 20, 2022 at 10:46 a.m.
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      Quoting: c_thompson
      I especially love the part where you add the extra 's' onto his last name, making it DubASS. Real clever stuff, high quality content.

      This whole post is ridiculous. We're in the longest period of having a competitive team in ~20 years, and all you can think is "THE GM SUCKS". ****ing delusional. And why do we have Muzzin, Gio, Kampf, Bunting, Kerfoot, Brodie, Jarnkrok, NAK, and Samsonov. If Dubas wasn't GM, surely whoever is in his place would have entirely different depth players.


      If we had Lou, we would be an old team dreaming of the dead puck era. Like the Islanders
       
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