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Top 10 d all time

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Initial Creation Date: Aug. 21, 2022
Published: Aug. 21, 2022
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Orr, Bobby
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Bourque, Ray
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Lidstrom, Nicklas
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Harvey, Doug
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Shore, Eddie
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Potvin, Denis
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Robinson, Larry
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Coffey, Paul
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Pilote, Pierre
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Park, Brad
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Aug. 21, 2022 at 2:27 p.m.
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How did Olli Maatta not make this list??
Aug. 21, 2022 at 2:27 p.m.
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MacInnis should easily be ahead of Coffey.
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Aug. 21, 2022 at 2:38 p.m.
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MacInnis should easily be ahead of Coffey.


I like macinnis and don’t love Coffey but there’s not really any criteria to put macinnis ahead
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Aug. 21, 2022 at 2:54 p.m.
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MacInnis should easily be ahead of Coffey.

No way. Big Al was great, but Coffey has more points more Norris and more Cups.
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Aug. 21, 2022 at 3:17 p.m.
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I like macinnis and don’t love Coffey but there’s not really any criteria to put macinnis ahead


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No way. Big Al was great, but Coffey has more points more Norris and more Cups.


No criteria? How about he was a far better defensive player and didn't have his stats inflated by playing years and years with prime Gretzky/Kurri/Mess/Lemieux/Jagr and all the other super friends.
Aug. 21, 2022 at 3:26 p.m.
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No criteria? How about he was a far better defensive player and didn't have his stats inflated by playing years and years with prime Gretzky/Kurri/Mess/Lemieux/Jagr and all the other super friends.


He was better on defense for sure but Coffey was better on offense and won more Norris.

The counter to the last point was Lemieux and Gretzky had their 200/near 200 point seasons with Coffey as their defenseman so it was a mutually beneficial relationship
Aug. 21, 2022 at 4:13 p.m.
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He was better on defense for sure but Coffey was better on offense and won more Norris.

The counter to the last point was Lemieux and Gretzky had their 200/near 200 point seasons with Coffey as their defenseman so it was a mutually beneficial relationship


1 - He was far better on defense. On considerably lesser teams.

2 - Bruh. It was mutually beneficial, but the benefits certainly weren't equal. Just think of how many times Coffey touched it on the way to one of those guys perpetrating some insane solo goal.
Aug. 21, 2022 at 4:57 p.m.
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Coffey, amazing player, but he lacked Defensive capability.
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Aug. 21, 2022 at 5:54 p.m.
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No criteria? How about he was a far better defensive player and didn't have his stats inflated by playing years and years with prime Gretzky/Kurri/Mess/Lemieux/Jagr and all the other super friends.


Nobody outside of STL is taking prime MacInnis over prime Coffey. For giggles I googled best defenseman all time and Checked random lists including NHL.com Coffey was top 10 on every list MacInnis none. Ironically NHL.com had them the closest with Coffey 7 and MacInnis 11. But hey you have home town love for MacInnis I respect that.
Aug. 21, 2022 at 6:36 p.m.
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Nobody outside of STL is taking prime MacInnis over prime Coffey. For giggles I googled best defenseman all time and Checked random lists including NHL.com Coffey was top 10 on every list MacInnis none. Ironically NHL.com had them the closest with Coffey 7 and MacInnis 11. But hey you have home town love for MacInnis I respect that.


First of all, MacInnis was already ending his prime when he got to St. Louis. Secondly, that he played for the Blues was not a factor. Plenty of folks who vote on awards and write up these lists get seduced by stats without putting them in context. For instance, how many of Coffey's points came well into blowouts? Just looking at points or Cups won when judging defensemen who were in very different team situations is pretty superficial. If I had a pick, I'd take MacInnis without a thought.
Aug. 21, 2022 at 6:45 p.m.
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First of all, MacInnis was already ending his prime when he got to St. Louis. Secondly, that he played for the Blues was not a factor. Plenty of folks who vote on awards and write up these lists get seduced by stats without putting them in context. For instance, how many of Coffey's points came well into blowouts? Just looking at points or Cups won when judging defensemen who were in very different team situations is pretty superficial. If I had a pick, I'd take MacInnis without a thought.


So is it macinnis not in top ten or Coffey being there that’s the issue? I mean I still have a few d men ahead of macinnis past this top ten
Aug. 21, 2022 at 7:30 p.m.
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Lets move potvin up to 4th where he belongs
Aug. 21, 2022 at 7:30 p.m.
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So is it macinnis not in top ten or Coffey being there that’s the issue? I mean I still have a few d men ahead of macinnis past this top ten


If someone had a top 10 without MacInnis, I wouldn't really blink (even though I might have him in mine). I just think Coffey's rep is greatly enhanced by the teams he spent most of his time with, if not also the era he played in. And it kinda gets forgotten he wasn't exactly a complete D-man.
Aug. 21, 2022 at 7:38 p.m.
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Lets move potvin up to 4th where he belongs


Over?
Aug. 21, 2022 at 7:41 p.m.
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If someone had a top 10 without MacInnis, I wouldn't really blink (even though I might have him in mine). I just think Coffey's rep is greatly enhanced by the teams he spent most of his time with, if not also the era he played in. And it kinda gets forgotten he wasn't exactly a complete D-man.


I am not a Coffey fan so I put him as low as I felt Comfortable. I mean he wasn’t great on d end but he also was never really asked to so who knows?

I feel he excelled at exactly what he was asked to do.
But really after my top 7 I’m pretty wide open
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Aug. 21, 2022 at 8:28 p.m.
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Aug. 21, 2022 at 10:32 p.m.
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Over?


Shore and harvey
 
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