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Lucic

Created by: TMLBRIAN
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 21, 2022
Published: Aug. 21, 2022
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Description
Calgary gets a skill upgrade and take on just under 1m in cap. Leafs get a size and toughness increase and save just under 1m in cap.

Vancouver gets the overall better dman and a pick. Leafs get the more physical dmen and cap relief.

Thoughts?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,300,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Lucic, Milan ($2,625,000 retained)
2.
VAN
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$82,414,783$212,500$0$85,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 2
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$750,000$750,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$2,625,000$2,625,000
LW, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,300,000$1,300,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Aug. 21, 2022 at 7:32 p.m.
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Cedric Archambault
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@TMLBRIAN can you explain why calgary would do this trade plz
Aug. 21, 2022 at 7:33 p.m.
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GO FLAMES GO
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I'd rather have Schenn over Holl
Aug. 21, 2022 at 7:37 p.m.
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Flames already have enough skill. I think Sutter is content with playing Lucic on the 4th line. He does his job.
Aug. 21, 2022 at 7:39 p.m.
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Quoting: CeceHuey
TMLBRIAN can you explain why calgary would do this trade plz


They get a fast, skilled, hard working player who can provide more offence and defence to Calgary than what Lucic provies. They already have a lot of toughness throughout their line up, so they can afford to lose out on the toughness Lucic brings. They get the much more skilled player for an extra 875k cap hit (which they can afford to take on).

The Leafs can really use some more toughness throughout their line up and they need a bit of cap relief. They also have a lot of skill, speed throughout their line up, so they can sacrifice a bit of that to get the toughness.
Aug. 21, 2022 at 7:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Gmonwy
I'd rather have Schenn over Holl


Same. Hence the 3rd round pick going back with him. Holl is more talented though.
Aug. 21, 2022 at 7:51 p.m.
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I would think Calgary would do that deal. No for Vancouver
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Aug. 21, 2022 at 7:58 p.m.
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Thinking that Holl is an upgrade on Schenn is just delusional.
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Aug. 21, 2022 at 8:02 p.m.
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Quoting: evelutions2
Thinking that Holl is an upgrade on Schenn is just delusional.


I did add a 3rd round pick going to Vancouver here. So clearly I valued Schenn and his contract more than Holl and his contract. Holl is more talented and has higher upside is what I said though but also has higher potential downside. He holds his line better than almost everyone in the league but isn't great in his own zone. But the Leafs need the physicality that Schenn brings more than what Holl brings.
Aug. 21, 2022 at 8:08 p.m.
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Lucic is a bad 4th liner at this point in his career, and even at 50% retained is a massivly negative value. Trading Kerfoot for him would be an exceptionally bad trade
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Aug. 21, 2022 at 8:09 p.m.
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Quoting: evelutions2
Thinking that Holl is an upgrade on Schenn is just delusional.


thinking that Schenn is an upgrade on any leafs defender is delusional.
Aug. 21, 2022 at 8:10 p.m.
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Quoting: CeceHuey
TMLBRIAN can you explain why calgary would do this trade plz


because it's 3x more than schenn is worth at bare minumum. Luke Schenn some how got incredibly over rated real fast eh?
Aug. 21, 2022 at 8:47 p.m.
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VAN decline.
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Aug. 21, 2022 at 8:48 p.m.
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GO FLAMES GO
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
because it's 3x more than schenn is worth at bare minumum. Luke Schenn some how got incredibly over rated real fast eh?


That's Vancouver
Aug. 21, 2022 at 9:30 p.m.
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PDG over PDO
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Pass
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Aug. 21, 2022 at 9:31 p.m.
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PDG over PDO
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
thinking that Schenn is an upgrade on any leafs defender is delusional.


But Holl plays for the leafs and he is a clear upgrade on Holl
Aug. 21, 2022 at 9:39 p.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
But Holl plays for the leafs and he is a clear upgrade on Holl


he isnt an upgrade on jordie benn, let alone Holl
Aug. 21, 2022 at 9:55 p.m.
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PDG over PDO
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
he isnt an upgrade on jordie benn, let alone Holl


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sa-Znq09Bg Schenn would have never done something this stupid
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Aug. 21, 2022 at 9:57 p.m.
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Would love Lucic don't think the flames do that, canucks will pass the 2nd trade It's gonna cost something to dump Holl
Aug. 21, 2022 at 9:58 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
he isnt an upgrade on jordie benn, let alone Holl


Take the homer glasses off buddy Schenn is a clear upgrade on both, There was a reason why we were after him so hard last year
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Aug. 21, 2022 at 10:37 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
because it's 3x more than schenn is worth at bare minumum. Luke Schenn some how got incredibly over rated real fast eh?


I was talking the lucic trade…. A bad trade for Toronto imo
Aug. 21, 2022 at 10:38 p.m.
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Cedric Archambault
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
I did add a 3rd round pick going to Vancouver here. So clearly I valued Schenn and his contract more than Holl and his contract. Holl is more talented and has higher upside is what I said though but also has higher potential downside. He holds his line better than almost everyone in the league but isn't great in his own zone. But the Leafs need the physicality that Schenn brings more than what Holl brings.


Seems like you get the better player and flee toronto in your explanation … yep it’s a bad trade for Toronto
Aug. 22, 2022 at 2:24 a.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Lucic is a bad 4th liner at this point in his career, and even at 50% retained is a massivly negative value. Trading Kerfoot for him would be an exceptionally bad trade


No he's a very solid 4th liner that is not worth 5.25M. he would still probably get around 2M on the market though
Aug. 22, 2022 at 7:08 a.m.
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Quoting: TheTypicalLeafsFan
Take the homer glasses off buddy Schenn is a clear upgrade on both, There was a reason why we were after him so hard last year


ah yes, teams were so hard after him that a team that didnt make they playoffs couldnt get a 3rd rounder for him. No one was going hard after luke schenn, he simply isnt good at all. Take off your pleasing other fan bases pants bud
Aug. 22, 2022 at 7:10 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
No he's a very solid 4th liner that is not worth 5.25M. he would still probably get around 2M on the market though


he'd only get more than league min because his name is Milan Lucic. if everyone forgot who he was he certainly wouldnt get 2m based on his abilities now
Aug. 22, 2022 at 7:12 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sa-Znq09Bg Schenn would have never done something this stupid


lol, he's been doing stuff 'that stupid' his entire career. He's a bad player no matter how much you pretend he isnt
 
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