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Created by: deez
Published: Aug. 22, 2022 at 12:35 p.m.
Salary Cap: $82,500,000
Season Days: 185/186 (99%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has been rejected because one of the teams exceeds the 23 player roster limit

Logo of the Calgary FlamesCalgary Flames

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Välimäki, JuusoCalgary FlamesNHL-$1,541,667011---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Labanc, KevinSan Jose SharksIR25%$3,524,698011---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$2,136,667214267358
Change-$1,983,031-100000
Final$153,636 (↓)20 (↓)4267358000

Logo of the San Jose SharksSan Jose Sharks

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Labanc, KevinSan Jose SharksIR25%$3,524,698011---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Välimäki, JuusoCalgary FlamesNHL-$1,541,667011---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial-$1,200,8342346693614
Change$1,983,031100000
Final$782,197 (↑)24 (↑)46693614000
Aug. 22, 2022 at 12:46 p.m.
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Calgary declines and asks about a sign and trade for Timo Meier.
Aug. 22, 2022 at 12:52 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
Calgary declines and asks about a sign and trade for Timo Meier.


No sure CGY can afford Meier next Season unless Hanifin is going the other way, is that what you are thinking!?
Aug. 22, 2022 at 12:54 p.m.
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I'd take a chance on Leblanc for Valimaki, but I'd want CGY to add a Pick or Prospect to get 50% Retention on Leblanc for 2 Years or add a 3rd Team to get 75% retention
Aug. 22, 2022 at 1:05 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
Calgary declines and asks about a sign and trade for Timo Meier.


Sign and trade will cost an arm and a leg, San Jose isn’t letting him go for a discount by any means
Aug. 22, 2022 at 1:26 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
No sure CGY can afford Meier next Season unless Hanifin is going the other way, is that what you are thinking!?


Hanifin would work but so would Toffoli and if we have Meier we don't need Toffoli.

Quoting: glarson17
Sign and trade will cost an arm and a leg, San Jose isn’t letting him go for a discount by any means


Yeah the acquisition cost would be high that's why it'd have to be a sign and trade. Calgary won't be paying through the nose to acquire him only to have to try negotiating his 10 mil QO down next summer. That QO effectively makes him a rental and as a rental he's worth less.
Aug. 22, 2022 at 2:23 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
Hanifin would work but so would Toffoli and if we have Meier we don't need Toffoli.

I'd prefer to keep Toffoli who can put up similar numbers, especially if playing at 1RW with 18+mins/gm (I think Mangiapane would be better at 1RW though) also for the fact Toffoli's much cheaper and brings a Right Shot to the Power Play
Aug. 22, 2022 at 3:12 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
I'd prefer to keep Toffoli who can put up similar numbers, especially if playing at 1RW with 18+mins/gm (I think Mangiapane would be better at 1RW though) also for the fact Toffoli's much cheaper and brings a Right Shot to the Power Play


Toffoli won't put up the same numbers Meier would plus Meier is only 25 years old 4-1/2 years younger than Toffoli and just entering his prime.
Aug. 22, 2022 at 9:39 p.m.
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Toffoli won't put up the same numbers Meier would plus Meier is only 25 years old 4-1/2 years younger than Toffoli and just entering his prime.


Toffoli has Scored 30+ Goals before and has proven he can be a PPG Guy: 6G+4A=10PTS/10GP in VAN, 28G+16A=44PTS/52GP for MTL (extrapolate that over 82 GP = 44G+25A=69 PTS). Granted he hasn't put up those numbers in a full 82 Game Season, but give him a Playmaker like Huberdeau or Kadri and 19mins of Ice Time per night and he could put up very good offensive numbers, as he's in his Prime now as well. Mangiapane is still the better bet for 1RW, but it we can bring in another guy, we'd have Two 1st Lines IMO = 1A & 1B

Meier will obviously be Better for longer, but he'll cost an Arm & Leg to Acquire + $10mil/year, which again I don't see CGY being able to afford without weakening other areas. Best to Trade for a Young RW Prospect like Bratt or Zetterlund and hope to sign them long term IMO
Aug. 22, 2022 at 10:51 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Toffoli has Scored 30+ Goals before and has proven he can be a PPG Guy: 6G+4A=10PTS/10GP in VAN, 28G+16A=44PTS/52GP for MTL (extrapolate that over 82 GP = 44G+25A=69 PTS). Granted he hasn't put up those numbers in a full 82 Game Season, but give him a Playmaker like Huberdeau or Kadri and 19mins of Ice Time per night and he could put up very good offensive numbers, as he's in his Prime now as well. Mangiapane is still the better bet for 1RW, but it we can bring in another guy, we'd have Two 1st Lines IMO = 1A & 1B

Meier will obviously be Better for longer, but he'll cost an Arm & Leg to Acquire + $10mil/year, which again I don't see CGY being able to afford without weakening other areas. Best to Trade for a Young RW Prospect like Bratt or Zetterlund and hope to sign them long term IMO


I did say with an extension and though I didn't specify it I did say so we don't have to try to resign him for less than his QO which effectively would make him just a rental.
 
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