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Team: 2022-23 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 23, 2022
Published: Aug. 23, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$900,000
1$2,500,000
Trades
CGY
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler ($2,375,000 retained)
  2. Smith, Givani
  3. 2024 4th round pick (DAL)
DET
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. Pelletier, Jakob
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (CGY)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (CGY)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$69,187,500$0$200,000$13,312,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$0$0
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 2
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
C
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$900,000$900,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000 (Performance Bonus$200,000$200K)
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$1,550,000$1,550,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Aug. 23, 2022 at 3:48 a.m.
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There's no way Detroit would agree to that.

Bert is worth way more than a cap dump and an AHL player and two 2nds even without retention and Smith thrown in.
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Aug. 23, 2022 at 6:15 a.m.
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Horrible for Calgary. Bertuzzi is a rental and unvaxxed. Pelletier is one of the top prospects in the league. Ill take 7+ years of Pelletier and 2 on an ELC over 1 of Bert all day.

Flip the trade around, would Detroit trade Maata + Kasper/Cossa + 2 2nds for Weegar + Mackey + 4th. All this under the hypothetical that Detroit can't afford to resign Weegar?
Aug. 23, 2022 at 7:00 a.m.
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Terrible for both both teams

Detroit: Detroit is not going to trade their best LW on the team.
Calgary: Why would they trade Pelletier. He’s one of the best prospects right now. You have to RS on Lucic if Detroit is going to take him.
Aug. 23, 2022 at 9:30 a.m.
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Bertuzzi is unvaccinated and can't play in Canada.
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Aug. 23, 2022 at 9:40 a.m.
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Bertuzzi is going to cost a lot more than that. Basically Bertuzzi for two 2nds.

It will cost you Pelletier to dump Lucic.
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Aug. 23, 2022 at 10:32 a.m.
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Terrible trade for both teams.
Aug. 23, 2022 at 11:26 a.m.
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Not good for either team. Pelletier is Calgary's top prospect and is basically NHL ready which they will need. Bertuzzi would be a great add but I don't think the pieces are right. Maybe Coronato, 2023 1st, 2025 second and Lucic for Bertuzzi half retained and Smith.
Aug. 23, 2022 at 10:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
There's no way Detroit would agree to that.

Bert is worth way more than a cap dump and an AHL player and two 2nds even without retention and Smith thrown in.


You have no idea what you're talking about thats two 2nds and the Flames best prospect thats NHL ready and most likely making the team meanwhile Bertuzzi is a known anti-vaxxer and in Canada that isn't gonna fly and on top of that I can't think of a worse person for a Canadian team to acquire as a rental, this is easily shut down by Calgary.
Aug. 24, 2022 at 1:44 a.m.
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Quoting: Ansabch12
You have no idea what you're talking about thats two 2nds and the Flames best prospect thats NHL ready and most likely making the team meanwhile Bertuzzi is a known anti-vaxxer and in Canada that isn't gonna fly and on top of that I can't think of a worse person for a Canadian team to acquire as a rental, this is easily shut down by Calgary.


Bert will not be traded for less than a haul similar to what Mantha got. That was Vrána + a 1st + a 2nd.

You have absolutely no idea how Bert is valued in Detroit and making an offer as stupidly unrealistic as this only shows off your ignorance.

With retention and Smith on top we're talking at least three 1st round picks or you'll simply will be told to **** off.

Detroit is not a charity that exist only to supply players to you for next to nothing.
Aug. 24, 2022 at 2:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
Bert will not be traded for less than a haul similar to what Mantha got. That was Vrána + a 1st + a 2nd.

You have absolutely no idea how Bert is valued in Detroit and making an offer as stupidly unrealistic as this only shows off your ignorance.

With retention and Smith on top we're talking at least three 1st round picks or you'll simply will be told to **** off.

Detroit is not a charity that exist only to supply players to you for next to nothing.



Thats such obvious stupid bias I dont even know what to say, you'd be hard pressed to get 3 first round picks for Patrick Kane or David Pastrnak, but you expect that for a guy whos coming off a career year where he still was under ppg and on top of that has absolutely zero value to a Canadian team because of his vaccination status so i'd say its more you thats showing off your ignorance.

Also Mantha got that return because he was signed to term for a solid cap hit, Bertuzzi is a pending UFA theres quite a huge gap in value there, obviously he isn't getting the kind of astronomical return you're expecting and is more in line with whats being offered here which itself is a huge overpay because of the reasons I mentioned earlier.
 
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